iris123 Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: My lad goes back to full time training from next week at his League One football team's U19 dev squad.. Today he started contact training after a fortnight of social distanced training... As currently not 18, I have had to sign a waver to allow him to start contact training.. From August 1st they will play pre season friendlies.. We as Dads, generally get to watch the last half hour of training from the stands as many of them dont drive so get picked up. And get to watch all the games.. I am not sure how sitting in a football stand, socially distanced, to watch him play football, is any less of a risk than watching Speedway riders using the same social distanced rules.? My take on things is the government allowed grass roots sport so that people could go about keeping fit and not many people turn up to watch that. Normally like you, just parents. That is imo totally different to actually allowing sports with crowds. But they have said they will allow a few test sports and then from October start opening up. Of course if things go wrong then you can bet that October date will be pushed back...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, mikebv said: My lad goes back to full time training from next week at his League One football team's U19 dev squad.. Today he started contact training after a fortnight of social distanced training... As currently not 18, I have had to sign a waver to allow him to start contact training.. From August 1st they will play pre season friendlies.. We as Dads, generally get to watch the last half hour of training from the stands as many of them dont drive so get picked up. And get to watch all the games.. I am not sure how sitting in a football stand, socially distanced, to watch him play football, is any less of a risk than watching Speedway riders using the same social distanced rules.? It very difficult to see the logic in some of the lockdown scenarios,and to what will be the requirements will have to be in place should Clubs want to run a few meetings, obviously this will become clearer nearer the deadlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthsayer Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Maybe this pandemic will see the scales drop from the eyes of British speedway and help it find its true level. I mean... in almost every sport, from football to motorsport, less than the top 1% can even consider themselves anything approaching professional. In almost every sport, the majority of participants do it for the love, not expecting payment and usually paying for the privilege. Not speedway though. Any kid putting a club race jacket on thinks he deserves a dollar. Really? Let me tell you something, Buttercup, you ain't doing it 'to entertain the fans' you're doing it for your own fun (or more likely your dad's), it's your hobby, and you expect others to pay for your hobby. How many amateur riders are in speedway? I don't know, but the proportion of 'professionals' sure seems high from where I am sitting. In my universe, there are about three or four British riders who should be making a living from speedway, a handful who should get a bit of pocket money, and the rest? Pay for your hobby like everyone else. I can't believe that speedway is big enough for more than 50 professional riders worldwide. Those sponsors and fans are subsidies, not salaries, and the sport is broke because its an amateur sport pretending to be professional. Riders should be paying to race in most instances, paying tracks for the privilege of riding on their prepared circuits in the way that almost every motocross rider does. Maybe this crisis will make people realise this. But probably not... PS: I'm Truthsayer. It's my first post. Hi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richspeedway Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 I guess we will see in the coming days which tracks will open and have challenges or individuals. Looking forward to August as going to some circuits as the UK Motorsport has open up to crowds and got the Rugby season starting in September so if any that open hopefully can slip them in too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Top storey on the bbc motorsport section of sport nice to be remembered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, geoff100 said: Top storey on the bbc motorsport section of sport nice to be remembered The BBC only give Speedway a mention when it's something bad - tossers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Ringitsneck said: Since when did the very few clubs that run amateur meetings ( Kings Lynn, Rye House, Scunthorpe, Redcar ? ) charge admission? I’ve attended 3 out of those four and only every been asked to throw coins in a voluntary bucket at one of them. Not sure who does ‘ on line tickets ‘ of those clubs but if they don’t charge it isn’t an issue. I can see it being done like a temporary private club membership for each meeting. Only a limited number of memberships are issued, by advance purchase, and you have to provide name and address. This would also be to meet local authority requirements in case any subsequent tracking and tracing is needed. I don't think the membership charge will necessarily be cheap, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 What's the point of this thread? Trying to find a way of seeing some amateur riders have a "skid" at a local training track with a few dozen spectators ? and paying for the privilege? Assume medical cover will have to be provided ? Who will do this in the current situation? A lot of money will have to be spent to get the spartan facilities at most tracks to be Covid 19 compliant for what might be a handful of loss making meetings . Who is going to bother ? No crowds until October therefore no speedway in 2020 is the Speedway GB statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: What's the point of this thread? Trying to find a way of seeing some amateur riders have a "skid" at a local training track with a few dozen spectators ? and paying for the privilege? Assume medical cover will have to be provided ? Who will do this in the current situation? A lot of money will have to be spent to get the spartan facilities at most tracks to be Covid 19 compliant for what might be a handful of loss making meetings . Who is going to bother ? No crowds until October therefore no speedway in 2020 is the Speedway GB statement. You obviously don’t follow things very well. Scunthorpe held an amateur meeting last Sunday , Redcar have just announced one, neither with spectators. They are good money spinners for little outlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 8 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I'm incredibly impressed that the scientists have been able run and prove analysis that the crowds that would attend an amateur meeting is one that has a lower risk of passing on infection than that attending 'elite events' After all that must be what has happened as the government all through this has only 'followed the science'...... Perhaps they hadn’t factored in Speedway’s delusions of grandeur... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: What's the point of this thread? Trying to find a way of seeing some amateur riders have a "skid" at a local training track with a few dozen spectators ? and paying for the privilege? Assume medical cover will have to be provided ? Who will do this in the current situation? A lot of money will have to be spent to get the spartan facilities at most tracks to be Covid 19 compliant for what might be a handful of loss making meetings . Who is going to bother ? No crowds until October therefore no speedway in 2020 is the Speedway GB statement. It doesn't take much to make the required changes needed to the stadia to be Covid 19 compliant.. Where my lad plays they have one entrance and a seperate exit system, and a one way system signed around the place.. You sit in one seat with the next two empty, with the row behind staggered using the same space allocation.. This then alternates up the stand. . One steward does the entrance to the stand and one does the exit.. When the game ends, fans leave one block at a time from the stand with the nearest the exit block going first as directed by the steward... Hand sanitiser is attached to walls at the entrance and exit, and within the one way system at various points.. Their standing areas are again one way in and empty stand by stand, with the nearest the exit first. Each is sectioned with a max amount people allowed per section, similar to how supermarkets let in customers dependent on Sq ft size.. It wouldn't cost very much logistically at all to set up as it is just 'home produced' signage, some tape, hand sanitiser every 20m or so around the ground and circa 20 barriers near the entrance and exits to ensure paths don't cross if the entry and exit points are in the same vicinity.. You really are much safer there than in any supermarket in the UK.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 only the league is cancelled, people will still see speedway in October at a fair few tracks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Surely the rules will be driven by the needs of lower league football (as opposed to the views of Sage or Public Health England). The Football League will want to get the 2020-21 season underway with spectators allowed (or at least the promise they will be imminently). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richspeedway Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 I am not a football fan so do not follow it much but I have heard from the local teams here who are non-league that they looking to start the season in September. Not sure if this is with/without crowds. I did read somewhere as well that non-league clubs were hoping to start normally as if they start later than usual then they will miss out on the FA Cup dates which are lucrative fixtures for them and the cash from that must only help the club keep going and help with facilities etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The BBC only give Speedway a mention when it's something bad - tossers The BBC only ever mentions anything when it's something bad, I wouldn't worry about it too much the BBC is totally irrelevant these days to anybody outside of London and in hindsight it's probably a blessing that Speedway never got involved with them, can you imagine the scrutiny it would be coming under in these modern times with our lack of diversity? It'd be leading the news headlines every night 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: only the league is cancelled, people will still see speedway in October at a fair few tracks Would be ironic if there are more meetings in October this year than some recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldace Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an official British Championship with a couple of preliminary rounds and the final at BV. Maybe even televised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, coldace said: Wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an official British Championship with a couple of preliminary rounds and the final at BV. Maybe even televised. With a decent bit of prize money to get some interest..? £5k per Prem and Champ track would generate a £95k prize fund.. And maybe Eurosport could chip in £5k to cover it making £100k? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Wow! You two do live in fantasy land. For a starters no track is going to put 5K in anybody’s else’s kitty, it doesn’t benefit them so it isn’t going to happen. Eurosport will not chip in either, they’ve paid their dues , they are a business not a sponsor. I doubt more than 3 or 4 tracks will attempt to run any sort of meaningful meeting, amateur meetings make money , anything else needs a crowd to make it viable. look at what the ‘ chairman ‘ is already planning, a meeting ‘ up to ‘ NL standard, meaning the riders pay to enter , receive nothing so no cost to the club. A Scunthorpe amateur select against a Leicester amateur select ,That’s the sort of meetings that will take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Ringitsneck said: Wow! You two do live in fantasy land. For a starters no track is going to put 5K in anybody’s else’s kitty, it doesn’t benefit them so it isn’t going to happen. Eurosport will not chip in either, they’ve paid their dues , they are a business not a sponsor. I doubt more than 3 or 4 tracks will attempt to run any sort of meaningful meeting, amateur meetings make money , anything else needs a crowd to make it viable. look at what the ‘ chairman ‘ is already planning, a meeting ‘ up to ‘ NL standard, meaning the riders pay to enter , receive nothing so no cost to the club. A Scunthorpe amateur select against a Leicester amateur select ,That’s the sort of meetings that will take place. A bit strong but I see your point and think you won’t be far off the mark. It would make no sense to have a British Championship when the riders have had little to no racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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