2m rule scrapped from july 4th to 1m

[SteveLyric2]

Every club will have its own challenges to overcome should speedway be allowed to start with crowds in August.  Similarly each club will be working to its own budget and bottom line, so should know how many paying customers would be required to make it viable.  If a club has covered all its match-day costs by sponsorship and advertising then only a small number of fans would be sufficient.

[old bob at herne bay]

Sadly nothing I have seen from the UK speedway "management" amounts to anything but HOPE to run  UK speedway in 2020 .  They also appear to exhibit a great deal of FAITH, what is missing is CHARITY.

Not one proposal about how they intend to operate a safe environment for spectators has been seen by me ......it certainly CANNOT be business as usual by the "hoped for" start date of August. No idea what sort of meaningful league programme they intend to run starting in August when they struggle to complete fixtures when they start in March.

Would be interesting if Speedway Star could run some interviews with track promoters asking them some direct questions about the provisions they will be making to support spectator safety in their stadia for their hoped for start date in August  ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

[George Dodds]

4 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Sadly nothing I have seen from the UK speedway "management" amounts to anything but HOPE to run  UK speedway in 2020 .  They also appear to exhibit a great deal of FAITH, what is missing is CHARITY.

Not one proposal about how they intend to operate a safe environment for spectators has been seen by me ......it certainly CANNOT be business as usual by the "hoped for" start date of August. No idea what sort of meaningful league programme they intend to run starting in August when they struggle to complete fixtures when they start in March.

Would be interesting if Speedway Star could run some interviews with track promoters asking them some direct questions about the provisions they will be making to support spectator safety in their stadia for their hoped for start date in August  ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

but how can they have anything but hope? At the moment it would be illegal to stage a speedway meeting in front of a paying public. For that to be possible it needs a number of decisions to be made by politicians at a high level. Once those decisions are made stadium owners and promoters will know what has to be in place before the public can be admitted to the stadiums. Then they can tell those planning to turn up at the meetings what they have to do to make that happen.

[old bob at herne bay]

4 hours ago, George Dodds said:

but how can they have anything but hope? At the moment it would be illegal to stage a speedway meeting in front of a paying public. For that to be possible it needs a number of decisions to be made by politicians at a high level. Once those decisions are made stadium owners and promoters will know what has to be in place before the public can be admitted to the stadiums. Then they can tell those planning to turn up at the meetings what they have to do to make that happen. 

Maybe some proactive promotion of the sport to politiicians to indicate what specific measures could be taken at their stadia  to comply with safe distancing ......I am sure the average politician has no idea what speedway is,  and probably thinks it attracts crowds of 60,000 people crammed together in seated grandstands.

Seems you can have a  riot, sorry a demonstration to smash up some statues and kick seven bells out of policeman just by handing out gloves and face masks to riotors, sorry demonstrators, so it cannot be that difficult to propose aprropriate safty measures specific to each track in the leagues??

I apologise to anyone offended by the use of the word  "promotion" in my post.  

 

 

[MattK]

33 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Maybe some proactive promotion of the sport to politiicians to indicate what specific measures could be taken at their stadia  to comply with safe distancing .....

 

This suggests the government is taking a practical and logical approach to opening up the economy. They're not. You can spend 2 hours shopping in Primark or from next week sat inside a pub eating and drinking, but you can't spend 2 hours outside at a sporting event. It wouldn't surprise me if BJ has a dart board with all the industries on it and that's now they determine what can open next.

[ruffdiamond]

58 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Maybe some proactive promotion of the sport to politiicians to indicate what specific measures could be taken at their stadia  to comply with safe distancing ......I am sure the average politician has no idea what speedway is,  and probably thinks it attracts crowds of 60,000 people crammed together in seated grandstands.

Seems you can have a  riot, sorry a demonstration to smash up some statues and kick seven bells out of policeman just by handing out gloves and face masks to riotors, sorry demonstrators, so it cannot be that difficult to propose aprropriate safty measures specific to each track in the leagues??

I apologise to anyone offended by the use of the word  "promotion" in my post.  

 

 

Easy, just hand out gloves and masks at the speedway venue. 

[ruffdiamond]

21 minutes ago, MattK said:

This suggests the government is taking a practical and logical approach to opening up the economy. They're not. You can spend 2 hours shopping in Primark or from next week sat inside a pub eating and drinking, but you can't spend 2 hours outside at a sporting event. It wouldn't surprise me if BJ has a dart board with all the industries on it and that's now they determine what can open next.

As long as he is blindfolded and spins round 3 times before his throw. 

[W9 Lion]

On 6/24/2020 at 6:44 PM, Skidder1 said:

Interesting question as to who is responsible for ensuring social distancing (and its cost) for speedway in stadia owned by other landlords?!

Based on my knowledge of Leicester its the Promoter's responsibility to comply with the councils regulations

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Edited June 26, 2020 by W9 Lion
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[Fromafar]

56 minutes ago, MattK said:

This suggests the government is taking a practical and logical approach to opening up the economy. They're not. You can spend 2 hours shopping in Primark or from next week sat inside a pub eating and drinking, but you can't spend 2 hours outside at a sporting event. It wouldn't surprise me if BJ has a dart board with all the industries on it and that's now they determine what can open next.

At least it’s better than Nicola who waits to see what BJ has hit then opens that up 3 weeks later in Scotland

[old bob at herne bay]

Oh yes that's  the answer BLAME SOMEONE ELSE .......  its all the fault of Boris Johnson, Nicola Sturgeon , the bloke in Wales and whoever it is in Northern Ireland. 

I knew the word  "promotion"  would offend some on this forum :-)

If only there were more promotoers like those at Glasgow ... think we would all be able to plan our lives for 2020.  at the moment its like waiting for the inevitable rain off announcement whilst the riders and their entourage walk the track with their golf  umbrellas , and the track announcer telling you the meeting is still on ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

[topaz325]

Cant see the problem , just dress for the beach, bring a picnic, parasol and let everyone in the stadiums.

[cityrebel]

12 minutes ago, topaz325 said:

Cant see the problem , just dress for the beach, bring a picnic, parasol and let everyone in the stadiums.

Plus a carrier bag, in case the toilets are out of bounds.

[HertsRacer]

2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said:

Easy, just hand out gloves and masks at the speedway venue. 

Would be a must. The 2m rule has not been scrapped, the wording is that you can be 1m plus, but should take a number of precautions eg wear a mask. Also one of speedway's main problems reopening would be noise. Pubs are now banned from having loud music of any sort so as to prevent customers having to shout above the noise, which is thought to increase the risk of transmission, the shouting that is not the music. So again the only way speedway could overcome a similar obstacle with bike noise would be for masks to be compulsory. 

Edited June 26, 2020 by HertsRacer

[topaz325]

1 hour ago, cityrebel said:

Plus a carrier bag, in case the toilets are out of bounds.

And leave all your trash behind

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, cityrebel said:

Plus a carrier bag, in case the toilets are out of bounds.

Volunteers won’t be be clambering to clean the toilets at the majority of venues I have attended 

Edited June 26, 2020 by Fromafar

[Speedtiger]

2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Oh yes that's  the answer BLAME SOMEONE ELSE .......  its all the fault of Boris Johnson, Nicola Sturgeon , the bloke in Wales and whoever it is in Northern Ireland. 

I knew the word  "promotion"  would offend some on this forum :-)

If only there were more promotoers like those at Glasgow ... think we would all be able to plan our lives for 2020.  at the moment its like waiting for the inevitable rain off announcement whilst the riders and their entourage walk the track with their golf  umbrellas , and the track announcer telling you the meeting is still on ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

If only there were more promotoers like those at Glasgow ... think we would all be able to plan our lives for 2020.

Oh yes ‘if only’...we would end up with absolutely nothing.

These so called ‘promoters’ bailed out because they fell out amongst themselves regarding speedway and the car business they ran was in a bad way due to virus situation. I don’t blame them BUT Don’t suggest they are good and doing it for the supporters, they have bailed out purely for selfish reasons.

[Fromafar]

6 minutes ago, Speedtiger said:

If only there were more promotoers like those at Glasgow ... think we would all be able to plan our lives for 2020.

Oh yes ‘if only’...we would end up with absolutely nothing.

These so called ‘promoters’ bailed out because they fell out amongst themselves regarding speedway and the car business they ran was in a bad way due to virus situation. I don’t blame them BUT Don’t suggest they are good and doing it for the supporters, they have bailed out purely for selfish reasons.

You obviously know nothing about the Glasgow Promotion,or you would not post that crap.

[Speedtiger]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

You obviously know nothing about the Glasgow Promotion,or you would not post that crap.

I do know they pulled out...the only promotion to do so....YET...!!

[HGould]

24 minutes ago, Speedtiger said:

I do know they pulled out...the only promotion to do so....YET...!!

Anyone want to hazard a guess about how many in PL / CL / NL will actually race IF there is a restart and League to race in by middle to late August?

Based on nothing more than heresay and guess work.

I will guess PL = 6 CL = 6 NL = 5

 

[old bob at herne bay]

So Speedtiger you have read the Glasgow Promotion's explanation of why they made their decision ?

Putting aside your clear dislike of the Glasgow promotion .... none of their reasons apply to other UK speedway clubs?  ?  ?

Funny old game this speedway "promoting" lark in the UK .... every season every promoter moans and groans about the large losses they have made and now we see all but one of them queueing up "in hope" to presumably add to their losses by running a very short season with every likelihood of reduced attendances than those in 2019.

 

Who's kidding who ?