cityrebel Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 For me personally, going to my local speedway track is no more of a risk than queuing up at a local supermarket, or going into work. It could happen with the right precautions and restrictions in place. Getting the permission to start up again though, is a different matter entirely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 17 hours ago, Chewbacca said: We still have a 14 day quarantine for people flying into the country. Rules out any riders living overseas. I believe elite sports people are exempt from quarantine. So that still rules out Poole. Bmmm tschhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Can you imagine the uproar if speedway clubs are forced to record the contract details of those attending meetings? They have resolutely resisted any kind of marketing for the last twenty years and now it could be introduced via the back door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Reading the letter my wife received yesterday morning from the Government (She falls into the shielding category), realistically it won't be possible for her to attend speedway in August, which rules me out too. We can talk about sports stadiums putting in 1-metre guidance rules in place, which on paper isn't a problem, but in practice it is. In the case of speedway, there are only two stadiums she visits regularly with me, those being Mildenhall & Peterborough. We've now wouldn’t be able to go to the latter, because of the Blue Badge System, thats now in place. Mildenhall would still be a good chance for her to see some speedway, but I think we all know from places like supermarkets for example, that once folk are in store, it's a general free for all. So whilst in the case of her going to speedway, to ensure that 1-metre distance was observed by everybody, it would need a lot of stewards to ensure that happened, which of course isn't practical. In my wife's case, for medical reasons, she's not allowed to sit in the sun, and because of mobility issues, that just restricts her to the 1st/2nd bend area, which is our chosen location anyway at this particular venue. What of sports stadiums with grandstands? I sit in one seat, but the seats either side of me must remain empty, which is easy done, but what when people want to keep coming in an out for various reasons? What about the row in front of the one you're sitting in, most stadiums in every sport, you're knees are usually touching either the seat or the person in front of you, so to my mind that isn't workable either. What of the cleanliness and safety of toilets in stadiums? These are just my own opinions, and I'm sure many will disagree with them, and that of course is your right, but I just don't see how sport can start up with any real degree of safety still, as much as I'd love it to, as like everybody, I'm missing it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Speedtiger said: Not sure how ‘in the know’ or knowledgable Dickson is but I think this is just misleading blustering and wishful thinking. He’s in a dream or should I say a nightmare and talking nonsense. Live sport, including speedway, with spectators attending is way way off and certainly will not be in the next month or so. Even when it is allowed, which will not be until a vaccine treating the virus is found or the spread of the pandemic has drastically improved, and considering the age demographic of supporters, many will not attend as they will not feel comfortable in crowds and many will have got out of the habit of going to speedway. The economic situation is a complete disaster, the UK is now plunging into a deep recession, just look at the news every day, with lots of businesses collapsing or on the brink of going bust, millions being made redundant and joining the massive list of unemployed, I fear many speedway clubs will go to the wall. This is not doom and gloom but sadly reality! Is Stewart Dickson also not on BSPA Committee? If so he surely would be up to speed with progress. Plenty Doom and Gloom you right but at least we dont have to listen to any now on the daily BBC update thing at 4.30pm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Catch Me If You Can said: Is Stewart Dickson also not on BSPA Committee? If so he surely would be up to speed with progress. Plenty Doom and Gloom you right but at least we dont have to listen to any now on the daily BBC update thing at 4.30pm TBH I don’t think the BSPA clueless clowns and Mr Dickson know what day of the week it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, HertsRacer said: Not so easy. Friend of mine who runs a pub showed me the list (46 pages) issued after the announcement of the reduction as to things he will have to do in order to open. Mind boggling. Cant see any promoter or stadium owner having the cash to make tracks Covid safe for spectators. The spectators shouldn't be on the tracks!!! Edited June 25, 2020 by Skodaman Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Damien Bates BSPL Vice-Chair is speaking in similar vein to Stuart Dickson in his interview with Nigel Pearson on Speedwaygb.co.uk. Edited June 25, 2020 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 Stadiums will be open from September at the latest, or else leagues 1 and 2 in football wont exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 On reading a tweet from hove greyhound stadiums it looks like all stadia are licenced via the sports ground safety authority. It looks like possibly owners of greyhounds and horses may be able to attend from july 4 and some sort of crowd allowed around a month or so after . Its a bit demoralising to see the public 40 deep at bournemouth beach flouting SD rules mind you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 All Stadiums are Licensed and those that share Speedway with Greyhounds (like Brummies) may have a bit of an advantage in seeing what's being planned for the Dogs. It is a big step though from letting in a few Dog Owners in a carefully managed environment and may be the few dozen who attend BAGS and few hundred who may enjoy the fine Dining experience at Perry Barr Dogs/ Monmore Green Dogs on an Evening as an example, as these are smaller numbers and in the case of Dining subject to social distancing at Tables etc, that is easier to police than on the terraces. I think that any easing for general spectators may come just that bit too late for Speedway in 2020 which is a shame. I hope as always that I'm wrong but it just feels to me time will beat us. At least those shared Dog / Speedway venues have no excuse for not being on the ball and ready though for 2020 or more likely 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Catch Me If You Can said: Is Stewart Dickson also not on BSPA Committee? If so he surely would be up to speed with progress. Plenty Doom and Gloom you right but at least we dont have to listen to any now on the daily BBC update thing at 4.30pm 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Damien Bates BSPL Vice-Chair is speaking in similar vein to Stuart Dickson in his interview with Nigel Pearson on Speedwaygb.co.uk. Or are they just "toeing the party line"? Glasgow are the only club (so far) to put their heads above the parapet and say how it really is (for them) and I still reckon there could be more to follow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Speedtiger said: TBH I don’t think the BSPA clueless clowns and Mr Dickson know what day of the week it is! I rather think they know a good bit more than you, mate... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, crescent girl said: I rather think they know a good bit more than you, mate... ...maybe but I’m being realistic, so we will see....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, StevePark said: Or are they just "toeing the party line"? Glasgow are the only club (so far) to put their heads above the parapet and say how it really is (for them) and I still reckon there could be more to follow. Glasgow correctly identified their double problem of having almost the whole team living overseas and their stadium (while very well-appointed) being very compact, meaning social distancing would make it impossible to admit a paying audience. This may also be true at other stadia, while others again might, indeed will, be able to run to a worthwhile, socially-distanced crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Glasgow correctly identified their double problem of having almost the whole team living overseas and their stadium (while very well-appointed) being very compact, meaning social distancing would make it impossible to admit a paying audience. This may also be true at other stadia, while others again might, indeed will, be able to run to a worthwhile, socially-distanced crowd. This maybe true, but based on attendances at most tracks they need their normal crowds to turn out just to be financially viable, depend what kind of meetings they are running and what riders will be available for some clubs .I can think of a few tracks that have the same problem as Glasgow regarding paying audience .Interesting to see if a short season can return decent attendances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: This maybe true, but based on attendances at most tracks they need their normal crowds to turn out just to be financially viable, depend what kind of meetings they are running and what riders will be available for some clubs .I can think of a few tracks that have the same problem as Glasgow regarding paying audience .Interesting to see if a short season can return decent attendances. and at most stadiums the normal crowd is a relatively small proportion of the potential capacity. One thing that has to be accepted is that there may have to be different mindsets from promoters and spectators to make things happen. And there may be some who cannot attend or a fearful of finding themselves among crowds. That's a real shame ... but not necessarily a reason not to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, The Third Man said: Stadiums will be open from September at the latest, or else leagues 1 and 2 in football wont exist Absolutely. My mate at the FA told me, September is the date they are looking at for having fans inside the stadiums. Fingers crossed that the infections have reduced enough for it to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: This maybe true, but based on attendances at most tracks they need their normal crowds to turn out just to be financially viable, depend what kind of meetings they are running and what riders will be available for some clubs .I can think of a few tracks that have the same problem as Glasgow regarding paying audience .Interesting to see if a short season can return decent attendances. Some tracks will try to run a few meetings, others will pull the plug on this year. It's going to be horses for courses, if it gets going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, George Dodds said: and at most stadiums the normal crowd is a relatively small proportion of the potential capacity. One thing that has to be accepted is that there may have to be different mindsets from promoters and spectators to make things happen. And there may be some who cannot attend or a fearful of finding themselves among crowds. That's a real shame ... but not necessarily a reason not to try. Once the social distancing is reduced I would agree ,but there are a number of Stadiums with relatively small capacity but like you say their normal crowds are in the hundreds(how many do they need to be financially viable). I think your last sentence sums up what might be the case though.Will they risk watching Speedway in detriment too their health and mental state, their financial situation might have changed in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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