False dawn Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: It's difficult to say after 2 rounds but just going on pure percentages, Woffinden, Zagar & Fricke with Vaculik being a big loser Good analysis. However, you do have to make an adjustment. The total race points available from 23 heats is 138. Whereas the total championship points available is 146. So you have to to inflate the race points by nearly 6% to make the comparison. Thus the gain/loss for each competitor now looks like this: 1 2 total pts +/- Freddie Lindgren 37% 10 11 21 30 9 Matej Zagar 14% 6 4 10 12 2 Max Fricke 14% 2 8 10 12 2 Tai Woffinden 13% 12 15 27 32 5 Gleb Chugunov 8% 6 8 14 16 2 Patryk Dudek 3% 5 7 12 13 1 Bartosz Zmarzlik 2% 11 14 25 27 2 Maciej Janowski 0% 17 19 36 38 2 Jason Doyle -6% 5 3 8 8 0 Niels-Kristian Iversen -6% 3 11 14 14 0 Antonio Lindback -6% 1 1 2 2 0 Artem Laguta -9% 20 13 33 32 -1 Mikkel Michelsen -14% 5 7 12 11 -1 Leon Madsen -16% 13 7 20 18 -2 Emil Sayfutdinov -18% 11 6 17 15 -2 Martin Vaculik -26% 11 4 15 12 -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, False dawn said: Good analysis. However, you do have to make an adjustment. The total race points available from 23 heats is 138. Whereas the total championship points available is 146. So you have to to inflate the race points by nearly 6% to make the comparison. Thus the gain/loss for each competitor now looks like this: 1 2 total pts +/- Freddie Lindgren 37% 10 11 21 30 9 Matej Zagar 14% 6 4 10 12 2 Max Fricke 14% 2 8 10 12 2 Tai Woffinden 13% 12 15 27 32 5 Gleb Chugunov 8% 6 8 14 16 2 Patryk Dudek 3% 5 7 12 13 1 Bartosz Zmarzlik 2% 11 14 25 27 2 Maciej Janowski 0% 17 19 36 38 2 Jason Doyle -6% 5 3 8 8 0 Niels-Kristian Iversen -6% 3 11 14 14 0 Antonio Lindback -6% 1 1 2 2 0 Artem Laguta -9% 20 13 33 32 -1 Mikkel Michelsen -14% 5 7 12 11 -1 Leon Madsen -16% 13 7 20 18 -2 Emil Sayfutdinov -18% 11 6 17 15 -2 Martin Vaculik -26% 11 4 15 12 -3 Edited September 2, 2020 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Speedway GP website have updated ticket sales info for remainder of the series, without mentioning what happens if ticket holders cannot go where tickets have already been purchased. https://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/8502/sgp-2020-ticketing-guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 See the Czech v Scotland football match has been called off...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Wholeheartedly agree with Philip Rising in his In My View feature in this week's Speedway Star regarding the new scoring system for SGP, as he says change for the sake of change is never a good idea. Hopefully the FIM will see the error of their ways and revert to the way we are used to for 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, iris123 said: See the Czech v Scotland football match has been called off...... BBC Football site saying games goes ahead as planned according to UEFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, iris123 said: See the Czech v Scotland football match has been called off...... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54036595 No it hasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mark said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54036595 No it hasn't. Well it was called off when I posted, as the story goes, it is now back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Well it was called off when I posted, as the story goes, it is now back on Why would it have been called off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bavarian said: Why would it have been called off ? After the game, the Czech FA announced the team would not be facing the Scots "due to representatives' decision and the current situation with the Covid-19". The statement added: "The national team ends current preparations with the immediate effect straight after the win against Slovakia." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bavarian said: Why would it have been called off ? Members of the squad and a backroom staff member tested positive for the virus. Czech FA wanted to postpone. UEFA said no. Czechia sound like they will now be using a reserve squad and staff on Monday. Edit - Actually the report I read about players testing positive seems wrong. They are just self isolating after being in contact with the staff member who was positive. Edited September 5, 2020 by HenryW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, iris123 said: After the game, the Czech FA announced the team would not be facing the Scots "due to representatives' decision and the current situation with the Covid-19". The statement added: "The national team ends current preparations with the immediate effect straight after the win against Slovakia." strange ! did they haev any positive Covid-19 test results in the Czech team? Otherwise I can not understand why they even thoght about not playing against Scotland tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, HenryW said: Members of the squad and a backroom staff member tested positive for the virus. Czech FA wanted to postpone. UEFA said no. Czechia sound like they will now be using a reserve squad and staff on Monday. Ah, that's what I suspected. Thanks for th info @HenryW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 Winners & Losers after Round 3: 1 2 3 Total Pts +/- % Freddie Lindgren 10 11 14 35 46 11 31% Jason Doyle 5 3 12 20 26 6 30% Tai Woffinden 12 15 12 39 43 4 10% Maciej Janowski 17 19 8 44 48 4 9% Matej Zagar 6 4 8 18 21 3 17% Bartosz Zmarzlik 11 14 20 45 47 2 4% Gleb Chugunov 6 8 14 16 2 14% Max Fricke 2 8 4 14 16 2 14% Patryk Dudek 5 7 3 15 15 0 0% Niels-Kristian Iversen 3 11 6 20 20 0 0% Artem Laguta 20 13 7 40 40 0 0% Leon Madsen 13 7 12 32 32 0 0% Antonio Lindback 1 1 2 4 3 -1 -25% Mikkel Michelsen 5 7 5 17 16 -1 -6% Emil Sayfutdinov 11 6 6 23 22 -1 -4% Anders Thomsen 4 4 3 -1 -25% Martin Vaculik 11 4 13 28 24 -4 -14% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erinil1 Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Seems to be a fare list if your looking on it from a Swedish perspective. We have both the rider who have benefited most from the new system and the rider which have suffered the most from the new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 15 hours ago, iainb said: Winners & Losers after Round 3: 1 2 3 Total Pts +/- % Freddie Lindgren 10 11 14 35 46 11 31% Jason Doyle 5 3 12 20 26 6 30% Tai Woffinden 12 15 12 39 43 4 10% Maciej Janowski 17 19 8 44 48 4 9% Matej Zagar 6 4 8 18 21 3 17% Bartosz Zmarzlik 11 14 20 45 47 2 4% Gleb Chugunov 6 8 14 16 2 14% Max Fricke 2 8 4 14 16 2 14% Patryk Dudek 5 7 3 15 15 0 0% Niels-Kristian Iversen 3 11 6 20 20 0 0% Artem Laguta 20 13 7 40 40 0 0% Leon Madsen 13 7 12 32 32 0 0% Antonio Lindback 1 1 2 4 3 -1 -25% Mikkel Michelsen 5 7 5 17 16 -1 -6% Emil Sayfutdinov 11 6 6 23 22 -1 -4% Anders Thomsen 4 4 3 -1 -25% Martin Vaculik 11 4 13 28 24 -4 -14% I'm very interested in this comparison but as an example did Zmarslik give it 100% behind Woffy in the heats ? He knew he was in the semi, had gate choice so there was no need to take any chances. Under the old system he would have been flat out. The 2020 system allows a rider to coast in his last heat or two, maybe try a set up for the semi, rather than have to get every point at all costs. I'm sure it wouldn't happen but the system could allow a bit of team riding to get a mate into the semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Mark said: I'm very interested in this comparison but as an example did Zmarslik give it 100% behind Woffy in the heats ? He knew he was in the semi, had gate choice so there was no need to take any chances. Under the old system he would have been flat out. The 2020 system allows a rider to coast in his last heat or two, maybe try a set up for the semi, rather than have to get every point at all costs. I'm sure it wouldn't happen but the system could allow a bit of team riding to get a mate into the semi. I think what it does show, so far anyway, is that consistency (some may call it mediocrity) is paying off big time over the series... it's saying to me cruise home for a 3rd or 4th in a final and don't risk the win, ironically the new points system was brought in to encourage the winner of an individual event getting the most points, all well and good for a one day event, over a series it's being shown to fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Winners & Losers after round 4: 1 2 3 4 Total Pts +/- % Old Rank New Rank Rank Diff Freddie Lindgren 10 11 14 17 52 66 14 27% 3 1 2 Bartosz Zmarzlik 11 14 20 14 59 59 0 0% 1 2 -1 Maciej Janowski 17 19 8 9 53 57 4 8% 2 3 -1 Tai Woffinden 12 15 12 11 50 53 3 6% 4 4 0 Leon Madsen 13 7 12 15 47 50 3 6% 5 5 0 Artem Laguta 20 13 7 3 43 45 2 5% 6 6 0 Jason Doyle 5 3 12 16 36 42 6 17% 8 7 1 Emil Sayfutdinov 11 6 6 13 36 36 0 0% 8 8 0 Martin Vaculik 11 4 13 12 40 35 -5 -13% 7 9 -2 Matej Zagar 6 4 8 5 23 27 4 17% 10 10 0 Max Fricke 2 8 4 8 22 24 2 9% 12 11 1 Niels-Kristian Iversen 3 11 6 3 23 24 1 4% 10 11 -1 Mikkel Michelsen 5 7 5 2 19 18 -1 -5% 13 13 0 Gleb Chugunov 6 8 14 16 2 14% 15 14 1 Patryk Dudek 5 7 3 1 16 16 0 0% 14 14 0 Anders Thomsen 4 6 10 10 0 0% 16 16 0 Antonio Lindback 1 1 2 3 7 6 -1 -14% 17 17 0 Edited September 12, 2020 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 For the record, does anyone think Mark Loram wasn't a deserving World Champion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: For the record, does anyone think Mark Loram wasn't a deserving World Champion? No not undeserving at all. Not really very overwhelming either. But very nice chap. Edited September 12, 2020 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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