PHILIPRISING Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, willstaxi said: No problem with 8 rounds in Poland but do not call it a world championship because it would not be. A precedent has been set with the European Championship... a series with only Polish riders would certainly not constitute a World Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 You can’t decide a World Championship with all the meetings in the same country, just wouldn’t be right or properly representative. If there is a desire to have a World Champion and Poland is the only country which can host anything then have a one off event, a World Final if you like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Of course it would be a proper World championship- all the 15 riders know the Polish tracks as well as the Poles !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Agree with Phillip. It does not matter where the tracks are sighted. All 15 riders know the Polish tracks well. No temporary tracks is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 But not as well as the Poles. It wouldn’t be acceptable to me if the UK were the only country running speedway and they crowded a five round GP series into the autumn with rounds at Belle Vue, Poole, Lynn, P’boro and Sheffield. The whole essence of the series is rounds in different countries. By all means have a one off meeting in Poland if there is a desperation to have a WC but not a mini series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: But not as well as the Poles. It wouldn’t be acceptable to me if the UK were the only country running speedway and they crowded a five round GP series into the autumn with rounds at Belle Vue, Poole, Lynn, P’boro and Sheffield. The whole essence of the series is rounds in different countries. By all means have a one off meeting in Poland if there is a desperation to have a WC but not a mini series. Yes let`s hold a one of meeting at Gorzow on Zmarzlik`s home track- brilliant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Yes let`s hold a one of meeting at Gorzow on Zmarzlik`s home track- brilliant Cheers for the sarcasm. Why there? How about a track where none of the GP riders race? I’d rather they didn’t have a World Championship at all at this stage personally. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: But not as well as the Poles. It wouldn’t be acceptable to me if the UK were the only country running speedway and they crowded a five round GP series into the autumn with rounds at Belle Vue, Poole, Lynn, P’boro and Sheffield. The whole essence of the series is rounds in different countries. By all means have a one off meeting in Poland if there is a desperation to have a WC but not a mini series. This year is unlike any other in our life. Accept the best that can be done within restrictions for travel and crowds. It may not be perfect but it's strange times. 5, 6 or 8 GP's is plenty to find a Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mark said: This year is unlike any other in our life. Accept the best that can be done within restrictions for travel and crowds. It may not be perfect but it's strange times. 5, 6 or 8 GP's is plenty to find a Champion. If they were in different countries yes....but not all in one country. I think that compromises the integrity of the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: If they were in different countries yes....but not all in one country. I think that compromises the integrity of the competition. How can a GP in Poland be different to the UK or Sweden for integrity. And you are also missing the vital bit about conrolling the movement of a virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mark said: How can a GP in Poland be different to the UK or Sweden for integrity. And you are also missing the vital bit about conrolling the movement of a virus. I think we have our wires crossed, what I’m saying is that the integrity of the series will be compromised by having all the rounds in one country. And I agree, with the time left and the restrictions in place there can’t really be rounds in multiple countries due to the virus, hence my point about having a ‘World Final’ or leaving it until 2021. Others will disagree which is fine but that’s what I think and believe. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Having all the rounds in Poland could have a detrimental effect on the Polish riders as there will be so much pressure on them to win 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I think we have our wires crossed, what I’m saying is that the integrity of the series will be compromised by having all the rounds in one country. And I agree, with the time left and the restrictions in place there can’t really be rounds in multiple countries due to the virus, hence my point about having a ‘World Final’ or leaving it until 2021. Others will disagree which is fine but that’s what I think and believe. We shall disagree but hope you enjoy the GP series. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 How having 3/5/6 rounds in Poland have any less integrity than a one off World Final? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 More rounds in Poland simply means the likelihood of a Polish champion increase. Let's have a round at Eastbourne and see how they do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) All the riders in the GP with the exception of Martin Smolinski (no offence to anyone but MS isn't going to win it) ride and are based there. They all know the Ekstraliga tracks and it seems a pretty level playing field to me. It's an exceptional year and IMO could do worse than have a GP at each Ektraliga track (maybe swap Rybnik for Torun) making 8 Gps. Just my opinion of course. Edited June 26, 2020 by Shockster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Shockster said: All the riders in the GP with the exception of Martin Smolinski (no offence to anyone but MS isn't going to win it) ride and are based there. They all know the Ekstraliga tracks and it seems a pretty level playing field to me. It's an exceptional year and IMO could do worse than have a GP at each Ektraliga track (maybe swap Rybnik for Torun) making 8 Gps. Just my opinion of course. Surely Martin Smolinski has a 15/1 chance the same as everyone else in the field. To write off anyones chances before a wheel has been turned is just plain daft, even moreso in the current circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Triple.H. said: Surely Martin Smolinski has a 15/1 chance the same as everyone else in the field. To write off anyones chances before a wheel has been turned is just plain daft, even moreso in the current circumstances. All about opinions but as he is recovering from broken bones and never consistently been able to live with the big boys I'm very confident he'll be in the bottom 2 or 3. If you believe he has a 15/1 chance of winning it. Please don't ever gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 15 riders so they all start equally, so have a 1 in 15 chance of winning, Say for instance in the 1st round of heats in the 1st GP Lindgren, Woffinden, Madsen and Zmarzlik all got injured and were out for the season. You could say its highly unlikely but stranger things happen so who would win the World Title then ? I can tell you who will, one of the others ! but nobody knows which one, just as nobody knows who out of the 15 will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 We all have our opinions Triple H, but Smolinski has not got as much chance as the others. Form tells you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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