racers and royals Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I am looking to download a blank Extraleague programme score sheet ? preferably with the A & B columns( might be 1 or 2) for gate positions. Can anyone oblige ? Edited June 8, 2020 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Goddard Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 A related question - when are grading breaks during Polish meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said: A related question - when are grading breaks during Polish meetings? After 4, 7, 10,13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I tend to use Sportowefakty website for the Programme. Bet365 always have the riders by correct gate position as Sportowefakty usually have home riders in 1&3 for race 1 and don't change it if it's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Anyone know if the plan to change the heat format/gate positions to make life easier on number 10s and number 2s was implemented over the winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, CB252 said: Anyone know if the plan to change the heat format/gate positions to make life easier on number 10s and number 2s was implemented over the winter? It looks as if you are correct- i am going to print off and will post here the revised race card format later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) Here goes home team are numbered 9 to 15 and away 1 to 7 Format coin toss 1 gate 1( inside) 2 3 4(outside) heat 1 1 Y 9 R 3 W 11 B heat 2 15 R 6 W 14 B 7 Y heat 3 5 Y 12 B 2 W 13 R heat 4 14 B 4 Y 10 R 6 W heat 5 11 R 3 W 12 B 4 Y heat 6 13 R 2 W 15 B 1 Y heat 7 7 W 10 B 5 Y 9 R heat 8 3 W 13 R 4 Y 14 B heat 9 9 R 1 Y 10 B 2 W heat 10 6 W 11 R 5 Y 12 B heat 11 12 B 4 W 9 R 1 Y heat 12 2 Y 15 B 7 W 11 R heat 13 10 B 5 Y 13 R 3 W heat 14 Y R W B heat 15 R Y B W Format coin toss 2 heat 1 9 R 1 Y 11 B 3 W heat 2 6 W 15 R 7 Y 14 B heat 3 12 B 5 Y 13 R 2 W heat 4 4 Y 14 B 6 W 10 R heat 5 3 W 11 R 4 Y 12 B heat 6 2 W 13 R 1 Y 15 B heat 7 10 B 7 W 9 R 5 Y heat 8 13 R 3 W 14 B 4 Y heat 9 1 Y 9 R 2 W 10 B heat 10 11 R 6 W 12 B 5 Y heat 11 4 W 12 B 1 Y 9 R heat 12 15 B 2 Y 11 R 7 W heat 13 5 Y 10 B 3 W 13 R heat 14 R Y B W heat 15 Y R W B Edited June 9, 2020 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 score sheet here: http://programzuzlowy.pl/pge-ekstraliga/stal-gorzow-vs-unia-leszno,1729?fbclid=IwAR2oalEXuCJhkUxlHbqgOiBltKALSfh5CGRKWWzxPnbIQxKOtr3_J63_CJc just hit 'Generuj program' without filling in the squad if you want it blank. Unfortunately it's in pdf, hopefully we'll get .xls version soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Goddard Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Here goes home team are numbered 9 to 15 and away 1 to 7 Why on earth are the home team numbered higher than the away team? I've never understood that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said: Why on earth are the home team numbered higher than the away team? I've never understood that. Aren`t some away teams listed first in some sports/fixtures. This is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, tarkens said: score sheet here: http://programzuzlowy.pl/pge-ekstraliga/stal-gorzow-vs-unia-leszno,1729?fbclid=IwAR2oalEXuCJhkUxlHbqgOiBltKALSfh5CGRKWWzxPnbIQxKOtr3_J63_CJc just hit 'Generuj program' without filling in the squad if you want it blank. Unfortunately it's in pdf, hopefully we'll get .xls version soon Thanks- i spent ages in translating and listing- at least i now know the Polish for Red,Blue,White and Yellow Edited June 9, 2020 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 I have the Excel version now too progz (1).xls In order for formulas in 'Program' tab to work, you have to write the names down in 'Sklady' tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dave Goddard said: Why on earth are the home team numbered higher than the away team? I've never understood that. They seem to take the American approach that the away team takes top billing. I suppose the logic is that everyone knows who's at home and the 'sell' for the match/meeting is who is visiting this time. Re match grading break, do prepare for some lengthy gaps, not quite as long as Swedish intervals but you may need a fair amount of 'filler' Polish matches can often be quite leisurely-paced, well, between racing ;-) I've found listening to Polish commentary VERY revealing regarding pronunciation which is often far easier than it looks like on screen or on paper, but I'm sure you're aware of that. Bear in mind a lot of letters have modifcations which completely change their sound, which is why Lech Walesa was pronounced Vawensa.... Of course if you come up with something accurate in Polish but different to the established Anglicsed version you can have problems. Been there. Looking forward to hearing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Just an extra point. Don't forget that the role of white and yellow helmet colours are reversed in Poland. Yellow is worn by the heat leader/senior rider with the white for the secondary rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: They seem to take the American approach that the away team takes top billing. I suppose the logic is that everyone knows who's at home and the 'sell' for the match/meeting is who is visiting this time. Re match grading break, do prepare for some lengthy gaps, not quite as long as Swedish intervals but you may need a fair amount of 'filler' Polish matches can often be quite leisurely-paced, well, between racing ;-) I've found listening to Polish commentary VERY revealing regarding pronunciation which is often far easier than it looks like on screen or on paper, but I'm sure you're aware of that. Bear in mind a lot of letters have modifcations which completely change their sound, which is why Lech Walesa was pronounced Vawensa.... Of course if you come up with something accurate in Polish but different to the established Anglicsed version you can have problems. Been there. Looking forward to hearing you. I cannot agree about the length of grading breaks- the Extraleague is different from the other Polish leagues and most matches are over within 1hr 45mins- some 1hr 30mins. The gap between 13 and 14 is slightly longer because the nominations for 14 and 15 have to be sorted. Edited June 9, 2020 by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 RnR, in the program in xls I sent few minutes ago, there's an error in cell O31, you need to replace: =IF(ISERROR(VLOOKUP(O$4,trzynaście,2,0)=TRUE),"",VLOOKUP(O$4,trzynaście,2,0)) with: =IF(ISERROR(VLOOKUP(O$4,czternaście,2,0)=TRUE),"",VLOOKUP(O$4,czternaście,2,0)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, tarkens said: RnR, in the program in xls I sent few minutes ago, there's an error in cell O31, you need to replace: =IF(ISERROR(VLOOKUP(O$4,trzynaście,2,0)=TRUE),"",VLOOKUP(O$4,trzynaście,2,0)) with: =IF(ISERROR(VLOOKUP(O$4,czternaście,2,0)=TRUE),"",VLOOKUP(O$4,czternaście,2,0)) Your boys- play-offs ?? i still think Leszno, Czestochowa and Wroclaw are the teams to beat in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 don't think so Leszno, Czestochowa, Wroclaw, Grudziadz and even Gorzow all look better on paper, I think we'll end up 6th again this year, Falubaz 7th, Rybnik 8th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I cannot agree about the length of grading breaks- the Extraleague is different from the other Polish league and most matches are over within 1hr 45mins- some 1hr 30mins. The gap between 13 and 14 is slightly longer because the nominations for 14 and 15 are sorted. Apologies. Maybe it just seems that way to me. I usually watch recordings to avoid a divorce so maybe I don't get the true picture. . The heats 7 and 10 gaps did seem rather long though. I take your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Thanks- i spent ages in translating and listing- at least i now know the Polish for Red,Blue,White and Yellow The first thing I learnt was "drugie postizie" (apologies for spelling) meant "second place" not "about to be banned".....:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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