steve roberts Posted May 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) Rick Miller - Coventry. Pete Smith & Odd Fossengen - Poole Edited May 30, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Bob Paulson.Sheffield 1965-1974. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Martin McKinna, Glasgow 1982 - 1991. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Miny Waln, Benny Kaufman, and Alfred Rumrich and Pee Wee Cullum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Per Jonsson - Reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 10 hours ago, chunky said: I never, ever thought I would say this to YOU, but you made a mistake!!! Bernie Leigh rode for Swindon in 1974. Well spotted. My excuse is that I didn't see him ride very often for Swindon in 1974, on checking only 6 times! Remove him from my list and add: Charlie Barsby - Leicester Alan Totney - Cradley Heath Frank Boyle - Oxford Brian Hanham - Southampton Bengt Larsson - Sheffield Bill Landels - Edinburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) Bob Paulson - Sheffield Just seen someone beat me to it Edited May 31, 2020 by The Third Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, steve roberts said: Plus of course the old Rider Control system and later the points limit that forced riders to move on...often against their wish. You could also had fiction between a rider and management or fans. Erik Gundersen only rode for Cradley Heath AKA Cradley. It will be far easier to find a foreign rider that rode for a single club than a British one. Edited May 31, 2020 by Robbie B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Robbie B said: Erik Gundersen only rode for Cradley Heath AKA Cradley. It will be far easier to find a foreign rider that rode for a single club than a British one. Steve mentioned Erik in the original post... Thing is, there are MANY riders who rode for only one British club, but only had one or two seasons in the UK. They do fit the criteria, but cannot be classed as "servants". Riders like Kafel, Szczepanik, Olkiewicz, Zabik, Grubmuller, Marzotto etc. Even Brad Oxley... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, chunky said: Steve mentioned Erik in the original post... Thing is, there are MANY riders who rode for only one British club, but only had one or two seasons in the UK. They do fit the criteria, but cannot be classed as "servants". Riders like Kafel, Szczepanik, Olkiewicz, Zabik, Grubmuller, Marzotto etc. Even Brad Oxley... I missed Erik being mentioned today when I posted what a plonker I' am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 I think there's also: Tink Maynard - Belle Vue Tadeusz Teodorwicz - Swindon Les Sharpe - Halifax Peter Williams - Belle Vue Eric Salmon - Bristol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Bird Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Tony Lewis poole geoff swindells weymouth roger Stratton weymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tracy Bird said: Tony Lewis poole geoff swindells weymouth roger Stratton weymouth There's two names that remind me of trips to Radipole Lane when holidaying in Weymouth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tracy Bird said: Tony Lewis poole geoff swindells weymouth roger Stratton weymouth Geoff also appeared for Poole in 1973, with Tony appearing for West Ham and Exeter in 1965, which was a year when there was a pool of riders made available to turn out short term to cover for injured riders. He replaced Sverre Harrfeldt at home Cradley Heath, with some sources incorrectly recording this as a guest appearance, also replacing Des Lukehurst for Exeter at Wimbledon. Harrfeldt came back for West Ham and so Tony was no longer required; Exeter called upon Cliff Cox to return to the team instead of continuing with Lewis, who had failed to score in his one meeting for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Wot about Norman Storer- I know I know he rode for Long Eaton and then when they closed he went to Leicester (same club-different track)-but it does say club not track-does this count-also maybe Bob Jamieson of Halifax, perhaps Bert Kingston also?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, BOBBATH said: Wot about Norman Storer- I know I know he rode for Long Eaton and then when they closed he went to Leicester (same club-different track)-but it does say club not track-does this count-also maybe Bob Jamieson of Halifax, perhaps Bert Kingston also?? Bert Kingston is okay, I think, but Bob Jameson rode for Long Eaton, and also spent two years with Middlesbrough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, BOBBATH said: Wot about Norman Storer- I know I know he rode for Long Eaton and then when they closed he went to Leicester (same club-different track)-but it does say club not track-does this count-also maybe Bob Jamieson of Halifax, perhaps Bert Kingston also?? The term 'one club servants' does not specify the length of time the rider was attached to the club. Probably a year or two is too short a career to be worthy of inclusion, but where should the line be drawn? If Bert Kingston's 3 years at Halifax qualify then so would Bert Rawlinson's 3 years at Yarmouth. On the matter of whether Long Eaton 1967 and Leicester 1968 should be regarded as the same club, I acknowledge that the promotion moved from one location to the other and only two rider changes initially took place, with John Hart and George Major joining Leicester from Sheffield. However, having had the pleasure of being amongst the massive re-opening night crowd at Blackbird Road on 9th April 1968 and having attended many meetings there it is my opinion, from what I observed, that the vast majority of support was Leicester based. The question might be, what comprises the club, is it the management, the riders, the fan base, or all three? If it counted as the same club, what about the switch from Stoke to Belle Vue II in 1939, Wigan to Fleetwood in 1948, Hull to Swindon in 1949, Neath to St Austell in 1963, Edinburgh to Coatbridge in 1968, West Ham to Barrow in 1973, which all involved changing the name of the team. This differs to, for example, Glasgow Tigers moving track from White City to Hampden Park in 1969, when the team name was retained. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 8 hours ago, chunky said: Steve mentioned Erik in the original post... Thing is, there are MANY riders who rode for only one British club, but only had one or two seasons in the UK. They do fit the criteria, but cannot be classed as "servants". Riders like Kafel, Szczepanik, Olkiewicz, Zabik, Grubmuller, Marzotto etc. Even Brad Oxley... Didn’t Zabik ride for Peterborough and Poole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, DC2 said: Didn’t Zabik ride for Peterborough and Poole? Jan Zabik spent only the one year at Sheffield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 10:21 PM, BL65 said: A few more that, as far as I know, spent their careers with just one club: Les Owen, Roger Hill and Johnny Reason - Coventry Freddie Williams - Wembley Eric Chitty, Bluey Wilkinson and Tiger Stevenson - West Ham Bernie Leigh - Reading Goog Hoskin - Exeter Jimmy Cox - Edinburgh Louis Lawson - Belle Vue Phil Clarke - Norwich Bernie Leigh spent a year at Swindon, although, of course, Reading didn't have a side that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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