Two Legends World Final records. Fundin v Briggs.

[Grachan]

25 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

What do you think Steve on the  misconception of Kilb not getting on well with Ivan ??? i have heard loads of stories.Kilb was old school said things as it was no back stabbing from Bob he said in interviews he got on very well with Ivan i have a few photos of both of them laughing and joking together.Bob did say when Ivan came to Exeter that meant he missed out on open bookings as he was not the number 1 anymore.Kilb has to be up there as one of the best around the County Ground( did Bob, Autrey,Adams have the track record???) up there with Ivan, Autrey, Crump, Crash, Adams.

Bob definitely held the track record at Exeter at one time. I remember him being in The Guinness Book of Records as the fastest speedway rider - which was always the Exeter track record holder.

[steve roberts]

11 minutes ago, Grachan said:

Bob definitely held the track record at Exeter at one time. I remember him being in The Guinness Book of Records as the fastest speedway rider - which was always the Exeter track record holder.

Barry Meeks was once credited having set the fastest time round Crewe!

[Sidney the robin]

25 minutes ago, Grachan said:

Bob definitely held the track record at Exeter at one time. I remember him being in The Guinness Book of Records as the fastest speedway rider - which was always the Exeter track record holder.

Got the track record in March 1972 the time was 69.8 he went on to score a 12.point maximum that year Bob averaged 9.82.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[Ovalman]

1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said:

Yes that was at Wembley Doris heat 11 , Dukey  did well paid 8 from the ultra tough number 2 position Briggs scored 14. In the home match Dukey rode at number 6 so didn't meet Ove, Briggs got a max Pete Monday ( RIP)beat Ove in heat three as well. Wembley included Fundin, Eide, Wayne Briggs, Harkins have you read the Kilb book Doris ?? a great read still pick it up now and then and read again.

Yes it's a good read. For me Ove was number 1 when I started watching speedway in 63, my first World final. Briggo took over mid 60s, special mentions to 2 faves Craven and Knutson.

[steve roberts]

37 minutes ago, auntie doris said:

Yes it's a good read. For me Ove was number 1 when I started watching speedway in 63, my first World final. Briggo took over mid 60s, special mentions to 2 faves Craven and Knutson.

Would have enjoyed watching those three riders in their prime...alas I was far too young! At least I got to see Ronnie Moore who was still a very classy act and, of course, the last few years of Briggo.

[Sidney the robin]

1 hour ago, steve roberts said:

Would have enjoyed watching those three riders in their prime...alas I was far too young! At least I got to see Ronnie Moore who was still a very classy act and, of course, the last few years of Briggo.

There the two  that i missed out on to Steve and Knutsson often gets forgotten a real class act. Craven often gets forgotten as well and he is still my no 1 English rider mainly because of the era he rode in very strong one he also died when approaching his peak.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[Grachan]

1 hour ago, steve roberts said:

Barry Meeks was once credited having set the fastest time round Crewe!

I remember that, too. I never heard of him other than for that.

[steve roberts]

7 minutes ago, Grachan said:

I remember that, too. I never heard of him other than for that.

Apparently rode three season for "The Kings" but never managed to average over eight points during that time. I can only guess that he was a bit of a track specialist around Crewe?

Edited May 24, 2020 by steve roberts

[Sidney the robin]

1 hour ago, steve roberts said:

Apparently rode three season for "The Kings" but never managed to average over eight points during that time. I can only guess that he was a bit of a track specialist around Crewe?

Barry Meeks got the track record in 1970  -     70.4 the track was huge then it suited Barry well  as he was a very good grasstracker then.He averaged well over seven in 1969 and 70 then the track size was reduced Lou Sansom held it in 1973 and then surprisingly Cliff Andersen in 1975.Meeks must of been  very quick to be Quicker than Crumpy,Flood, Jacko who could all shift a bit.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[steve roberts]

Some goods name there Sid! I remember Cliff Andersen (RIP) doing some second halves at Cowley and, of course, at Swindon before ending up at Milton Keynes in 1978. Ole Olsen's mechanic for a while also.

Whatever happened to Garry Flood?

[Ovalman]

2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

There the two  that i missed out on to Steve and Knutsson often gets forgotten a real class act. Craven often gets forgotten as well and he is still my no 1 English rider mainly because of the era he rode in very strong one he also died when approaching his peak.

Had his rosette on my bedroom wall from 1963 final. Was sad news when my Dad woke me that night to say he had been killed. We followed Bjorn at West Am.Didnt like Ove or Bazza as they were his main rivals.

[Sidney the robin]

12 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

Some goods name there Sid! I remember Cliff Andersen (RIP) doing some second halves at Cowley and, of course, at Swindon before ending up at Milton Keynes in 1978. Ole Olsen's mechanic for a while also.

Whatever happened to Garry Flood?

A real shame Flood was also  a top class motocross rider  apparently the dogs B.......,  with engines as well.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[Ovalman]

I remember The Duke saying he was called up for England v New Zealand in 1970 at Swindon, had a chance to ride in one race but didnt want to risk damaging his mate's bike, Sean Murtough i think, so was non-starter. Was at the meeting, England 70 Kiwis 37. Ashby, Kilby, the Boocock Bros, Wilson, against Briggo, max, and Mauger. Kilbs beat Mauger in last heat. Betts, Haley, Hedge featured. Was a 4-0 whitewash for England, although the Kiwis had won the series 2-1 the previous year,  Moore was riding, Gifford, Andrews, Timmo, Cribb, and they beat England at Swindon.

Edited May 25, 2020 by auntie doris

[steve roberts]

52 minutes ago, auntie doris said:

I remember The Duke saying he was called up for England v New Zealand in 1970 at Swindon, had a chance to ride in one race but didnt want to risk damaging his mate's bike, Sean Murtough i think, so was non-scorer. Was at the meeting, England 70 Kiwis 37. Ashby, Kilby, the Boocock Bros, Wilson, against Briggo, max, and Mauger. Kilbs beat Mauger in last heat. Betts, Haley, Hedge featured. Was a whitewash for England, although the Kiwis had won the series 2-1 the previous year,  Moore was riding, Gifford, Andrew, and they beat England at Swindon.

One of my favourire "Kiwis" was Rick Timmo for obvious reasons!

[racers and royals]

10 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

One of my favourire "Kiwis" was Rick Timmo for obvious reasons!

"Spencer`s " still selling cars in Sandford -on -Thames, Farmoor and Oxford.  

[steve roberts]

21 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

"Spencer`s " still selling cars in Sandford -on -Thames, Farmoor and Oxford.  

Yes I called in on him a few years back as I was passing thru' Sandford. Hadn't realised that he had branched out however? Rick married the daughter of Oxford's Starting Marshall Tom Prickett if I remember.

[Sidney the robin]

6 hours ago, auntie doris said:

I remember The Duke saying he was called up for England v New Zealand in 1970 at Swindon, had a chance to ride in one race but didnt want to risk damaging his mate's bike, Sean Murtough i think, so was non-scorer. Was at the meeting, England 70 Kiwis 37. Ashby, Kilby, the Boocock Bros, Wilson, against Briggo, max, and Mauger. Kilbs beat Mauger in last heat. Betts, Haley, Hedge featured. Was a 4-0 whitewash for England, although the Kiwis had won the series 2-1 the previous year,  Moore was riding, Gifford, Andrews, Timmo, Cribb, and they beat England at Swindon.

Briggs got a 18 max Ivan hit and miss  got 10 that was it  England Kilb  16, Wilson/ Betts 13 each E.Boocock 9 plus 5 bonus points.

[salty]

7 hours ago, steve roberts said:

Whatever happened to Garry Flood?

In the Christmas issue of Speedway Star there was a lengthy "Where Are They Now?" feature on the 1972 Crewe Kings. 8 pages with detailed updates on the likes of John Jackson, Dave Morton, Dai Evans and Phil Crump. Only a small update on Gary Flood, says he went back to motocross Down Under and won numerous championships and awards as well as being inducted into the Australian Motor Sport Hall of Fame. Also says he's an introvert who shuns the limelight. In the Phil Crump piece he says he keeps in regular touch with Garry and talks about his expertise with motors.

[steve roberts]

1 hour ago, salty said:

In the Christmas issue of Speedway Star there was a lengthy "Where Are They Now?" feature on the 1972 Crewe Kings. 8 pages with detailed updates on the likes of John Jackson, Dave Morton, Dai Evans and Phil Crump. Only a small update on Gary Flood, says he went back to motocross Down Under and won numerous championships and awards as well as being inducted into the Australian Motor Sport Hall of Fame. Also says he's an introvert who shuns the limelight. In the Phil Crump piece he says he keeps in regular touch with Garry and talks about his expertise with motors.

Thanks for this...much appreciated!

[salty]

You're welcome.