IainB Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Fair enough, but the Stats show different over the last few seasons if you go by results.If the Gp qualifiers didn’t have limits on Nations entries I think it would show how many are better than the young riders from some of the other Nations than You think IMO .Ekstraliga is very strong and the majority of the Young Poles are on the Pace. Yes, they're on the pace on their own tracks. I suppose it depends on what format you compare... Clearly the Russians have the best 2/3 man team, the poles probably the best 4/5 man team and I'd say the Danes would have the best 7/8 man team... All of the above on a neutral track of course Edited June 16, 2020 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, iainb said: Yes, they're on the pace on their own tracks. I suppose it depends on what format you compare... Clearly the Russians have the best 2/3 man team, the poles probably the best 4/5 man team and I'd say the Danes would have the best 7/8 man team... All of the above on a neutral track of course The Poles are better the the Danes at 7/8 teams at any track IMO.The Russians are Speedway of Nation Champs but they certainly are not Clearly better than the Rest.GB and Poles are up there with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, iainb said: Yes, they're on the pace on their own tracks. I suppose it depends on what format you compare... Clearly the Russians have the best 2/3 man team, the poles probably the best 4/5 man team and I'd say the Danes would have the best 7/8 man team... All of the above on a neutral track of course I would match Zmarzlik, Janowski, Dudek, Drabik, Piotr Pawlicki, Kolodziej and Smektala and Kasprzak/Przedpelski against Madsen, MJJ,Pedersen, Thomsen, NKI, Bjerre, Michelsen and Lyager any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The Russians are Speedway of Nation Champs but they certainly are not Clearly better than the Rest.GB and Poles are up there with them. They just keep winning it 3 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I would match Zmarzlik, Janowski, Dudek, Drabik, Piotr Pawlicki, Kolodziej and Smektala and Kasprzak/Przedpelski against Madsen, MJJ,Pedersen, Thomsen, NKI, Bjerre, Michelsen and Lyager any day There's a lot of hot or miss merchants in that polish team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, iainb said: They just keep winning it There's a lot of hot or miss merchants in that polish team Less than the " hot or miss " Danes in their team. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I would match Zmarzlik, Janowski, Dudek, Drabik, Piotr Pawlicki, Kolodziej and Smektala and Kasprzak/Przedpelski against Madsen, MJJ,Pedersen, Thomsen, NKI, Bjerre, Michelsen and Lyager any day Agree ,that’s no contest IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Agree ,that’s no contest IMO. Poland streets ahead . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Najjer said: Batchelor declared in Rybnik’s team then.... interesting! All very quiet,he was obviously “not fit” last week and undergoing intensive training for this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: I would match Zmarzlik, Janowski, Dudek, Drabik, Piotr Pawlicki, Kolodziej and Smektala and Kasprzak/Przedpelski against Madsen, MJJ,Pedersen, Thomsen, NKI, Bjerre, Michelsen and Lyager any day Madsen, N Pedersen, NKI, Kildermand, K Bjerre, Michelsen, Hans Andersen, Thomsen, MJJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, iainb said: Madsen, N Pedersen, NKI, Kildermand, K Bjerre, Michelsen, Hans Andersen, Thomsen, MJJ Hans Andersen !!!!- you didn`t say it was 10 years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Hans Andersen !!!!- you didn`t say it was 10 years ago Well, you have got Kolodziej and KKand he's still well capable of beating either of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, iainb said: Well, you have got Kolodziej and KKand he's still well capable of beating either of them In your Danish dreams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I'll leave it with the facts In the last 20 years for Polish Speedway: 3 World Cup wins outside of Poland 2 World Champions As for the future... Who knows? I'll agree that a lot of the Poles are showing great promise but who knows which way they'll go. Who a few years ago would have said that Leon Madsen or Jason Doyle would turn out to be the riders they are today. Edited June 16, 2020 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Fromafar said: The Poles are better the the Danes at 7/8 teams at any track IMO.The Russians are Speedway of Nation Champs but they certainly are not Clearly better than the Rest.GB and Poles are up there with them. Eastbourne? Cardiff? Vojens? Lonigo? Prague? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Just finished watching Grudziądz visit to my favourite Polish track. Laguta was superb with only Madsen able to "keep him honest", I may watch heat 15 again as my eyes were on Lindgren & Pedersen. Unfortunately the rest of the visitors were not at their best so it was a comfortable home win for the Lions despite Doyle looking slow, more encouragingly for Częstochowa Przedpełski looked much improved and they may have a unearthed a gem at reserve in Świdnicki, who I don't think I had heard of before. Heat 14 was the highlight, Buczkowski leading after a lap but fourth half a lap later and then stuffed by Pedersen. Heat 6 also good. Edit - having watched heat 15 again maybe it was the cameraman more than myself who was watching Lindgren & Pedersen, Madsen had reeled Laguta in by the end of lap 4 but not sure if Laguta was easing off. Edited June 17, 2020 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Krakowiak looked very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Col said: Just finished watching Grudziądz visit to my favourite Polish track. Laguta was superb with only Madsen able to "keep him honest", I may watch heat 15 again as my eyes were on Lindgren & Pedersen. Unfortunately the rest of the visitors were not at their best so it was a comfortable home win for the Lions despite Doyle looking slow, more encouragingly for Częstochowa Przedpełski looked much improved and they may have a unearthed a gem at reserve in Świdnicki, who I don't think I had heard of before. Heat 14 was the highlight, Buczkowski leading after a lap but fourth half a lap later and then stuffed by Pedersen. Heat 6 also good. Edit - having watched heat 15 again maybe it was the cameraman more than myself who was watching Lindgren & Pedersen, Madsen had reeled Laguta in by the end of lap 4 but not sure if Laguta was easing off. Mateusz Swidnicki rode div 2 in 2019 for Krosno https://www.zuzelend.com/zaw,777,mateusz-swidnicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Mateusz Swidnicki rode div 2 in 2019 for Krosno https://www.zuzelend.com/zaw,777,mateusz-swidnicki Well he certainly looked much improved on whoever partnered Miskowiak at reserve for Częstochowa last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Col said: Well he certainly looked much improved on whoever partnered Miskowiak at reserve for Częstochowa last year. Think you might have forgotten that Czestochowa had Michal Gruchalski last season who is a real talent and has now turned 22 and has joined Tarnow https://www.zuzelend.com/zaw,604,michal-gruchalski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 You have to remember that the two meetings that stick in my head from Chestochowa are the two I attended when Wroclaw & Lezsno ran out comfortable winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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