Najjer Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Any news on what happened to Batchelor yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Najjer said: Any news on what happened to Batchelor yesterday? Nothing. Batchelor hasn`t posted on social media for ages and Rybnik`s report of the meeting doesn`t say anything. There is the bit on Sportowefakty that talks about Miedzinski by the team manager " I analyzed a lot. The experience and equipment at his disposal allows him to go - said Kędziora before the match in nSport +" Edited June 15, 2020 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Nothing. Batchelor hasn`t posted on social media for ages and Rybnik`s report of the meeting doesn`t say anything. There is the bit on Sportowefakty that talks about Miedzinski by the team manager " I analyzed a lot. The experience and equipment at his disposal allows him to go - said Kędziora before the match in nSport +" It does suggest a behind the scenes row. Odd for Sportowe Fakty not to sensationalise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Nothing. Batchelor hasn`t posted on social media for ages and Rybnik`s report of the meeting doesn`t say anything. There is the bit on Sportowefakty that talks about Miedzinski by the team manager " I analyzed a lot. The experience and equipment at his disposal allows him to go - said Kędziora before the match in nSport +" I think I’m right in saying that Miedzinski had a racesuit and bike covers all made up too, so essentially making him part of Rybnik’s squad I suppose as a ‘double upper’ using British terms? As oppose to just a ‘guest’. Maybe they just fancied him more than Batchelor. Bizarre choice after giving him 2 rides only. Edited June 15, 2020 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, RobMcCaffery said: It does suggest a behind the scenes row. Odd for Sportowe Fakty not to sensationalise it. Yes because if he did want to use Miedzinski he could have replaced Szczepaniak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Early days of course but pretty underwhelmed with what I’ve seen so far, team strengths seem to vary considerably particularly at reserve. Some better racing at Gorzow but generally it’s been quite FTG thus far. Add to that Premier Sports/Sky not being able to get their act together with the recordings, both meeting yesterday missed several heats. Glad it’s free and I’m not paying! Great to see Robert looking so fast and aggressive, long may that continue. You are right this year about the team strengths, but the problem is with two sides, I feel. Lublin gambled on only small changes to their promoted side last year and it paid off. Having Pawel Miesiac progress from second tier second string to Ekstraliga heat leader after investing in machinery did help. The progress seemed to have reversed in his absence on Friday but Wroclaw are a very strong side with Drabik's progress and Chugunov filling his place at reserve. Rybnik haven't been able to strengthen their promoted side to anywhere near the required level. The match at Gorzow was far more typical of Polish speedway. Don't be put off buy those first two matches or you will miss a lot of great speedway, but do allow for the fact that it is very different over there and a lot of familiar comforts won't be there. The racing should make up for it. Edited June 15, 2020 by RobMcCaffery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 I like the look of the Wroclaw Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Yes because if he did want to use Miedzinski he could have replaced Szczepaniak. Something tells me Miedzinski won't be getting a second chance....Will Batchelor? There's too much money at stake to allow Rybnik to flounder all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: Well, I've watched my first 3 PPV matches on Premier Sport and I must say, while I'm more than happy to have some "Live" Speedway to watch, I'm less than happy with the coverage. It reminds me very much of how Eurosport used to be, bordering on amateurish, I wonder if this will be the shape of things to come when/if the British League gets underway on that channel. I know the commentator is active on here so I'll not be too critical but he really needs a co-commentator to work with as even just reading tweets out during the breaks leaves him with nowhere to go other than silence. You'd think that Premier Sport would have taken in enough extra subscription money to warrant a co-commentator. I also realise there were no adverts in any of the matches over the weekend, so surely that's even more reason for a co-commentator. The commentator doesn't seem to have done his homework on the intricacies of the Polish League either, with lack of knowledge of the helmet covers, league points, tacticals, rider numbering (what's that all about!!) etc. He's certainly more knowledgeable than that 5-1er, 3-3er guy they were using last year for some matches but I do feel he doesn't inject much excitement into his commentary, sounds more like a cricket commentary... but that's just my personal preference/opinion. Missing heat 1 of the 1st match yesterday while they're playing promos is amateurish and unforgivable. Having watched some of the Free Sport output last year I've become well used to not seeing the last few heats of a meeting, so I was well prepared for it and recorded the whole channel for the night! As things stand I can't see myself renewing my subscription beyond this season should live British Speedway resume next year. Without the crowd there definitely does need to be an injection of enthusiasm by the commentator to keep the races 'interesting' and that isn't his natural style. (Unlike some). It must though be very hard to have 'reading out tweets' as your default go to process to fill dead air and I think he does a fair old job overall given the logistics of following the racing like we do, via a screen.. Especially with so much of the dead air due to zero adverts,.. Presumably they do have them but all will be in Polish so they just show replays of races on the Premier feed?. And having watched plenty of NSPORT and Eleven Sports they do like a long advert break, (to pay for the racing coverage I would imagine).. Still, racing is back, and we get to watch the very best in the world, with the rest of the 'package' I am sure being tweaked as we go along, and even if it isn't, it is still great to have Speedway back.. Can't wait for the next installment tonight... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, Fromafar said: I like the look of the Wroclaw Team. Things could change if Drabik can't postpone his case until after the season. Being able to replace his points scoring at reserve was essential and thanks to a passport they have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: Without the crowd there definitely does need to be an injection of enthusiasm by the commentator to keep the races 'interesting' and that isn't his natural style. (Unlike some). It must though be very hard to have 'reading out tweets' as your default go to process to fill dead air and I think he does a fair old job overall given the logistics of following the racing like we do, via a screen.. Especially with so much of the dead air due to zero adverts,.. Presumably they do have them but all will be in Polish so they just show replays of races on the Premier feed?. And having watched plenty of NSPORT and Eleven Sports they do like a long advert break, (to pay for the racing coverage I would imagine).. Still, racing is back, and we get to watch the very best in the world, with the rest of the 'package' I am sure being tweaked as we go along, and even if it isn't, it is still great to have Speedway back.. Can't wait for the next installment tonight... I sympathise greatly with Dave having to fill in those large gaps without live action. At least it's better than in Sweden where he only had a locked-off wide-angled picture to support him during the many breaks. It's a shane that the interviews conducted in English couldn't be included on the international feed but then there are long sequences as the presenter translates from English. Premier Sports are obviously working to a very tight budget. Thankfully Dave has the resourcefulness to make it work. There is only so much that you can do and bear in mind I think this is is first foray into Polish speedway with his stock car commitments having clashed with Premier's previous Polish coverage. It's hard enough commentating remotely off a screen without having huge gaps to fill...alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Something tells me Miedzinski won't be getting a second chance....Will Batchelor? There's too much money at stake to allow Rybnik to flounder all season. The Rybnik punters are calling for Siergiej Logaczov to be given a chance- decent on his day- Problem for Rybnik is another Pole is needed to go with Woryna in the top 5- maybe Lambert will remain at 8 but used from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 It's going to take more than Logachev though, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Heat 7 at Gorzow was brilliant. No quarter asked or given and the commentator sounded like he was giving birth with excitement. Bartoz could have binned it but to be credit stayed on the bike and still got the win. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Just now, RobMcCaffery said: It's going to take more than Logachev though, isn't it? Getting Geira back at 6/7 should help, however they are weak and very much the whipping boys. Obviously Hancock`s retirement didn`t help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mark said: Heat 7 at Gorzow was brilliant. No quarter asked or given and the commentator sounded like he was giving birth with excitement. Bartoz could have binned it but to be credit stayed on the bike and still got the win. Good enough to watch again 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mark said: Heat 7 at Gorzow was brilliant. No quarter asked or given and the commentator sounded like he was giving birth with excitement. Bartoz could have binned it but to be credit stayed on the bike and still got the win. And his reaction after the race too was an indicator of a high level of maturity... (Of course it may have helped that he won. .) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Polish commentators make more noise than any team of two. It adds to the speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Great commentary that Polish version. Didn't need to know what they were saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, acef said: The quality of racing and general meeting progression, well as a man who attends BV each week.....it was worse. And I also believe, so far this weekend, that I have seen better meetings run in more timely fashion across the UK. Equally imo, anyone who fails to see that should also ‘give their head a considerable shake’. You are lucky then if you get to watch BV every week as its the best track in this country by a million miles. However, for me, I prefer watching the worlds best riders riding at 110% every week in Poland not just seeing journeymen going through the motions or James Sargent breaking the tapes 4 times per meeting. Would be boring if everyone liked and wanted the same thing I suppose. Can I assume you didn't enjoy heat 7 from Gorzow ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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