Kedavra Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shockster said: 6 behind. Can't replace a U21 unless it's with the other U21 Can it only be used once? And can an under 21 replace the other at certain points too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) Utterly dull meeting in what should have been a thriller. Poor Dave Goddard having to work to make this sound exciting. The Poles have got it badly wrong allowing teams to build to whatever strength they want, with two u21s at reserve. Leszno are just too dominant, to the detriment of the sport in Poland. Edited August 12, 2020 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Kedavra said: Can it only be used once? And can an under 21 replace the autre at certain points too? If 6 behind, they can use it as many times as they like, but only 1 extra ride for a rider. Same 6 points for U21 to replace U21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 As the gap in scores widens so does my interest in this meeting diminish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Utterly dull meeting in what should have been a thriller. Poor Dave Goddard having to work to make this sound exciting. The Poles have got it badly wring allowing teams to build to whatever strength they want, with two u21s at reserve. Leszno are just too dominant, to the detriment of the sport in Poland. I would argue that Częstochowa have on paper a stronger team than leszno and both Częstochowa reserves are better than slauderbach, the problem is Częstochowa are badly under performing, who is the better rider Doyle or Lidsey ? You would have said Doyle at the start of season but lidsey has out performed Doyle, that’s not the league’s fault, infact lidsey who wasn’t even put in the team at the start of the year has out performed every Częstochowa rider apart from madsen Edited August 12, 2020 by THE DEAN MACHINE 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I would argue that Częstochowa have on paper a stronger team than leszno and both Częstochowa reserves are better than slauderbach, the problem is Częstochowa are badly under performing Unless it’s Poole,it’s always a dull meeting for Shovler. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 The home supporters must be a tad peed off I would think 'Is it worth risking Covid for this crap', they must be thinking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Lidsey's doing well again tonight.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I would argue that Częstochowa have on paper a stronger team than leszno and both Częstochowa reserves are better than slauderbach, the problem is Częstochowa are badly under performing, who is the better rider Doyle or Lidsey ? You would have said Doyle at the start of season but lidsey has out performed Doyle, that’s not the league’s fault Disagree. Leszno look head and shoulders over every other team and this will continue for seasons to come unless there are rule changes. This year has already been rendered a farce. There’s only one winner in 2020 and it’s the same as the last few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Unless it’s Poole,it’s always a dull meeting for Shovler. You think this is a decent meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: You think this is a decent meeting? See plenty of the same over here.Its not great ,you will be telling me that Lidsey is crap and gifted all his points as usual no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: You think this is a decent meeting? Keep calm Steve, save yourself for Brexit posts!!! As you know, some folk say walkover racing like these constitute excellent meetings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I would argue that Częstochowa have on paper a stronger team than leszno and both Częstochowa reserves are better than slauderbach, the problem is Częstochowa are badly under performing, who is the better rider Doyle or Lidsey ? You would have said Doyle at the start of season but lidsey has out performed Doyle, that’s not the league’s fault, infact lidsey who wasn’t even put in the team at the start of the year has out performed every Częstochowa rider apart from madsen Spot on.. A team that has three out of the top seven best riders in the world from last year shouldnt be getting smashed this way.. The system in Poland is fine.. Teams not performing some days is sport... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Disagree. Leszno look head and shoulders over every other team and this will continue for seasons to come unless there are rule changes. This year has already been rendered a farce. There’s only one winner in 2020 and it’s the same as the last few seasons. That’s cause they perform, they took a gamble with lidsey which paid off, kolodziej is past his best but still performs, slauderbach is not one of the top reserves, smektala could of struggled when he left the reserve berth, a lot of ifs there but they have all worked, Częstochowa have lindgren and Doyle who have both underperformed badly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 To be honest tonight has not been a great spectacle. The scoreline of 43-35 is totally down to Freddie Lindgren. He's got 1 which is unacceptable for a rider of his stature. If he had only another 4 the match is level. Trouble is Czestachowa have someone like him every week at the moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fromafar said: See plenty of the same over here.Its not great ,you will be telling me that Lidsey is crap and gifted all his points as usual no doubt. He’s a gating tart. Fast bikes less skill. Full throttle jockey with big balls as he hasn’t yet had a smash. Let’s see where he is in two years. If he can get around Monmore in front of Thorsell and Howarth I will up my opinion. Edited August 12, 2020 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 I i was Janusz Kolodziej i would not be happy- 14 points up away from home and taken out of a ride. Although he has not scored big points he has given it a right go !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, racers and royals said: I i was Janusz Kolodziej i would not be happy- 14 points up away from home and taken out of a ride. Although he has not scored big points he has given it a right go !!! Manager was trying to keep the crowd awake from the riding of Kolodziejzzzzzzzzzzzz. Edited August 12, 2020 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, racers and royals said: I i was Janusz Kolodziej i would not be happy- 14 points up away from la maison and taken out of a ride. Although he has not scored grand points he has given it a right go !!! Proper team manager. Too many are soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: He’s a gating tart. Fast bikes less skill. Full throttle jockey with big balls as he hasn’t yet had a smash. Let’s see where he is in two years. If he can get around Monmore in front of Thorsell and Howarth I will up my opinion. Do you really think he will even be riding round Monmore in a couple of seasons!!! Poland and world speedway is all about fast starting and fast bikes these days .IMO Edited August 12, 2020 by Fromafar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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