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5 minutes ago, Paddy The Rebel said:

Lol they normally do looking @ there results last year 

Actually it might be closer than that, not sure what the reserves are like.  But Częstochowa top 3 should out score Grudziądz top 3, but Holta & Przedpełski are going to struggle where as there isn't really a weak link in the visitors top 5.  This is if they line-up as I think they do, haven't checked.

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8 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Would like to see him do well ,but you can’t give these guys a start,and you can’t give an inch on the 1st lap.Very hard racing for 4 laps ,look at Chugunov he is right in among them.Dan needs the same attitude.He has had some nasty injuries though and that might play on his mind.


He was as timid pre the crash. When I listen to him, I think he is past those injuries now. He will fall out if he doesn’t grow a pair, to put it politely.

It is what it is. For whatever reason, we just can’t get one of our own to do anything out there consistently outside of Tai. It’s been this way for about 15 years. Rico (RIP) was the last one who had any type of consistency.

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11 minutes ago, acef said:


He was as timid pre the crash. When I listen to him, I think he is past those injuries now. He will fall out if he doesn’t grow a pair, to put it politely.

It is what it is. For whatever reason, we just can’t get one of our own to do anything out there consistently outside of Tai. It’s been this way for about 15 years. Rico (RIP) was the last one who had any type of consistency.

He does remind me a bit of Craig Cook when riders of the highest level come underneath him entering a turn or when riders are outside of him, but slightly ahead of him entering a bend. .

They both seem to 'blink first', and let their opponents dictate proceedings..

Maybe it's a lack of confidence in themselves at that level?

Woffy showed with Jamrog how to ride hard under a rider at speed, leaving Jamrog to either leave his leg there (and take impact) or move it..

A calculated risk of disqualification but these are the risks top level competitors take to be winners..

And as Speedway shows quite brutally at times, you have to be 100% committed to any manoeuvre as you often won't get another chance in a race..

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Paddy The Rebel said:

I had that earlier but luckily premier sports is on my IPTV service

Sportsmania has all Sports channels except NSport.  Been a member for years. Virtually every sports channel you can think of and catchup as well.  Can’t fault it. 

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6 minutes ago, JC71 said:

I've got Ice Hockey on my Premier Sports.........

It's definitely starting as it's on Eleven Sports 1 (Poland) and they have just done the toss for gates..

The track looks a 'bit sloppy' to say the least..:o

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3 minutes ago, mikebv said:

He does remind me a bit of Craig Cook when riders of the highest level come underneath him entering a turn or when riders are outside of him, but slightly ahead of him entering a bend. .

They both seem to 'blink first', and let their opponents dictate proceedings..

Maybe it's a lack of confidence in themselves at that level?

Woffy showed with Jamrog how to ride hard under a rider at speed, leaving Jamrog to either leave his leg there (and take impact) or move it..

A calculated risk of disqualification but these are the risks top level competitors take to be winners..

And as Speedway shows quite brutally at times, you have to be 100% committed to any manoeuvre as you often won't get another chance in a race..

 

 

I have no explanation. It’s like a virus. It just plagues British riders on the continent. It’s weird because we don’t have this issue across other motorsports.

Poland/Sweden/Denmark just produce top quality kids who seem to compete as soon as they are put in a situation where they have to. It’s a natural ability to just crack on which we don’t seem to have.

Rob Lambert is the closest but still not good enough.

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11 minutes ago, mikebv said:

He does remind me a bit of Craig Cook when riders of the highest level come underneath him entering a turn or when riders are outside of him, but slightly ahead of him entering a bend. .

They both seem to 'blink first', and let their opponents dictate proceedings..

Maybe it's a lack of confidence in themselves at that level?

Woffy showed with Jamrog how to ride hard under a rider at speed, leaving Jamrog to either leave his leg there (and take impact) or move it..

A calculated risk of disqualification but these are the risks top level competitors take to be winners..

And as Speedway shows quite brutally at times, you have to be 100% committed to any manoeuvre as you often won't get another chance in a race..

 

 

Agree with the blink first comment ,and it shows up more at top level.Cook was the same when the going got tough.The skills required to manoeuvre the bike in tight situations ,only the very Top men have them.Cook is fast but he is very rigid in style ,whereas Woofy , Smarzlik  And the top men have superb handling skills.

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3 minutes ago, acef said:

I have no explanation. It’s like a virus. It just plagues British riders on the continent. It’s weird because we don’t have this issue across other motorsports.

Poland/Sweden/Denmark just produce top quality kids who seem to compete as soon as they are put in a situation where they have to. It’s a natural ability to just crack on which we don’t seem to have.

Rob Lambert is the closest but still not good enough.

British riders are to happy with their comfort zone of riding two or three nights a week for a Premiership and Championship club, and making a very tidy living in doing so. Look how many British riders ride on a regular bases in the top leagues in Sweden and Poland, if you aren`t riding regularly at that level you cannot compete in the big meetings, SGP, SoN etc.

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Pardon the question, but if Bewley doesn't have what it takes to compete in Polish speedway and he 'needs to grow a pair' (and I did read Tai saying that), which it seems to be implied that he is not capable of growing a pair.

 Why then did the Poles, who must be aware of his pedigree, sign him in the first place??

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not on Premier Sports?   Oh dear, hope you took their free offer, didn't pay too much!

The other unofficial streams are working fine.......

Mind you, all they're showing is a very wet track, and riders standing around.      

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1 minute ago, screm said:

British riders are to happy with their comfort zone of riding two or three nights a week for a Premiership and Championship club, and making a very tidy living in doing so. Look how many British riders ride on a regular bases in the top leagues in Sweden and Poland, if you aren`t riding regularly at that level you cannot compete in the big meetings, SGP, SoN etc.

Understand that. 
 

My point is that the young riders coming out of Poland/Denmark/Sweden and to a lesser extent, Australia, just seem to step on a speedway bike, turn up in Polska and instantly start scoring points. There are some that don’t, but the entry level ability is so much higher than ours and I find that very hard to compute. We don’t have this issue in other dirt or motorsport.

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