Pinny Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Frank Smart. Genius on a bike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 One of the most underrated riders of his time - but one who left an amazing impression - Geoff Mardon. His reappearance at Southampton in 1959 after 5 years out of the sport was special. I'll throw in another name as one with an incredible style - Charlie New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 10 hours ago, salty said: I'd go with Ron Preston as mentioned before. Others I would add - John Boulger. When at his best was in the shadow of Ray Wilson at Leicester and when he was a true number 1, it was at (in those days unfashionable) Cradley. Soren Sjosten. Fantastic at Belle Vue in their glory years, but always second fiddle to Ivan. Alan and Andy Grahame. Superb club men and international class at their best, but never felt they got the kudos that more fashionable riders received. In more recent times - Rune Holta. Thought it was great how every year he seemed to stay in the GP's on merit despite being largely unheralded and knowing that his dual nationality was never going to help him get a nominated place in the series. Brilliant picks Reidar Eide and Charlie Monk also should be mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Pinny said: Frank Smart. Genius on a bike How about that guy Henricksson at Newport Pinny?? what was he like remember him also can remember a young charging Puk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Brilliant picks Reidar Eide and Charlie Monk also should be mentioned. Reidar was a tough nut (tragically died with swine fever (?) when he became a pig farmer) and recall Dag Lovass saying that Eide had no hesitation in taking him out ruthlessly on one occasion. Bert Harkins talks of a similar incident with Eide threatening to "kill him" but Bert was blameless and apparently Ronnie Moore sorted him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston197 Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: How about that guy Henricksson at Newport Pinny?? what was he like remember him also can remember a young charging Puk. Yes Anders was a joy to watch at Newport and should have gone on to better things, but for pure entertainment Frank Smart paired with Craig Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, steve roberts said: Reidar was a tough nut (tragically died with swine fever (?) when he became a pig farmer) and recall Dag Lovass saying that Eide had no hesitation in taking him out ruthlessly on one occasion. Bert Harkins talks of a similar incident with Eide threatening to "kill him" but Bert was blameless and apparently Ronnie Moore sorted him out. God you would never think of Ronnie being that way inclined such a gentleman really Eide was a tough rider classy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, piston197 said: Yes Anders was a joy to watch at Newport and should have gone on to better things, but for pure entertainment Frank Smart paired with Craig Watson Never saw alot of Anders piston just at the Abbey, really liked Watson a classy stylist.Newport with Puk, Kornielsson ( etc) unearthed quite alot of talent in the Premier days Smart( still mixing it today??? box office so exciting to watch. Edited May 2, 2020 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 10 hours ago, salty said: I'd go with Ron Preston as mentioned before. Others I would add - John Boulger. When at his best was in the shadow of Ray Wilson at Leicester and when he was a true number 1, it was at (in those days unfashionable) Cradley. Soren Sjosten. Fantastic at Belle Vue in their glory years, but always second fiddle to Ivan. Alan and Andy Grahame. Superb club men and international class at their best, but never felt they got the kudos that more fashionable riders received. In more recent times - Rune Holta. Thought it was great how every year he seemed to stay in the GP's on merit despite being largely unheralded and knowing that his dual nationality was never going to help him get a nominated place in the series. 1968 Leicester Salty Wilson ( class) Michanek, Boulger some heat leader trio yesteryear was so different than today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: 1968 Leicester Salty Wilson ( class) Michanek, Boulger some heat leader trio yesteryear was so different than today. Also in 1972 & !973 Sid. A heat leader trio of Wilson, Boulger & Jessup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: God you would never think of Ronnie being that way inclined such a gentleman really Eide was a tough rider classy. If memory serves it was a seperate incident to Bert's...recall an article in "Backtrack" some years back now. It's wll known that Eide had issues paying the toll when crossing the Severn Bridge when he ride for Newport. Apparently he was rather mean when it came to money although Bob Radford did talk about his generosity when he and some riders were house guests of Reidar. Edited May 2, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 hours ago, steve roberts said: Also in 1972 & !973 Sid. A heat leader trio of Wilson, Boulger & Jessup. Those days are gone Steve maybe the averages were false !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Those days are gone Steve maybe the averages were false !!!! Don't encourage the statisticians on here Sid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, steve roberts said: Don't encourage the statisticians on here Sid! Louis, Sanders Davey, Mauger, Sjosten,PC were pretty good those days are long 23 hours ago, The White Knight said: Edited May 2, 2020 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Louis, Sanders Davey, Mauger, Sjosten,PC were pretty good those days are long Davis, Andersson and Schwartz at Reading (1980) Kennett, Moran, Preston at Eastbourne (1982) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Ron How, Arne Pander, Jimmy Gooch (Oxford 65). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, chunky said: Ron How, Arne Pander, Jimmy Gooch (Oxford 65). Should have known that one! McKinlay, Harrfeldt and Hunter - West Ham 1965 & 66. Edited May 2, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) Davis was a very decent rider but for he me was me never ever an overwhelming number one rider ever. Edited May 2, 2020 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Davis was a very decent rider but for he me was me never ever an overwhelming number one rider ever. I'd agree Sid however he was good back up to the likes of Andersson, Schwartz, Jessup, Michanek etc. I obviously saw a lot of him during his formative years riding for the "Rebels" and was always regarded as a gater...but when he did he lowered a few scalps. I seem to remember that in 1974 he beat Briggo at both Wimbledon and Oxford when he out gated him...unfortunately he would often then run a last! He became more consistant when he left Cowley but was never the all round rider like some. Edited May 2, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, steve roberts said: I'd agree Sid however he was good back up Was JD another Mauger, Collins, or Olsen? Of course not, but between 1977 and 1981 (leaving out a "poor" year in 1978), I would think that the following averages would class someone as more than a "backup"... 1977 - 9.80 1979 - 10.32 1980 - 9.59 1981 - 9.67 I just think you guys are being a little harsh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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