Future Format for British Speedway

[Guest]

I think the UK government is OTT in regard to the way it is dishing out financial assistance at the present time. It all heralds for wage earners in future years the potential of much increased tax  burdens.

[The Third Man]

43 minutes ago, gustix said:

I am of th´opinion that only major sports should receive assistance. 

 

11 minutes ago, gustix said:

I am speaking as a British taxpayer. Do you fit that criteria?

Why does PL football need help, the major sport in the country, don't understand that comment at all there are loads of minor sports, including Speedway, who may or may not survive, who would need very small amounts of money to survive, and yes I am a UK tax payer

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

 

Why does PL football need help, the major sport in the country, don't understand that comment at all there are loads of minor sports, including Speedway, who may or may not survive, who would need very small amounts of money to survive, and yes I am a UK tax payer

Your  opinion and you are entitled to it. If its for minor sports how will table tennis, baseball. billiards, snooker and more meet the needed criteria. Not sure about darts though!!! 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

3 hours ago, mikebv said:

Reading the plethora of doom and gloom predictions for many of the sports at the top table, eg Football, F1, Rugby, and Cricket, with regards to possible sponsorship issues and how they will pay their huge overheads post C19 as companies adjust their out going priorities...

Is there then a chance for Speedway to attract some of those who would still like to be seen on TV, but would be now looking to spend tens of thousands (at most) rather than hundreds of thousands or even millions?

Some major companies will be pulling out of some huge deals and the likes of F1 and Rugby in particular will be paying out vast sums greater than any 'match day revenue' would cover, hence they are so reliant on this sponsorship money coming in...

[Falcon1983]

I spoke to a company last week that has pulled out of sponsoring a rider in BSB and I mentioned speedway as a cheaper alternative.

They declined even with the cost involved its cost vs exposure and even with the Eurosport deal in place they said it was the overall presentation of the sport which is a no 

I'll keep trying lol

[RS50]

11 hours ago, gustix said:

I am of th´opinion that only major sports should receive assistance. 

Why? A lot of the top sports performers weekly income far exceeds many peoples annual income. They could easily cut costs. 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, gustix said:

I am of the opinion that only major sports should receive assistance. 

 

11 hours ago, gustix said:

I think the UK government is OTT in regard to the way it is dishing out financial assistance at the present time. It all heralds for wage earners in future years the potential of much increased tax  burdens.

 

9 hours ago, Falcon1983 said:

I spoke to a company last week that has pulled out of sponsoring a rider in BSB and I mentioned speedway as a cheaper alternative.

They declined even with the cost involved its cost vs exposure and even with the Eurosport deal in place they said it was the overall presentation of the sport which is a no 

I'll keep trying lol

IMO the last quote sums up general attitude towards speedway.

[greyhoundp]

10 hours ago, Falcon1983 said:

I spoke to a company last week that has pulled out of sponsoring a rider in BSB and I mentioned speedway as a cheaper alternative.

They declined even with the cost involved its cost vs exposure and even with the Eurosport deal in place they said it was the overall presentation of the sport which is a no 

I'll keep trying lol

This is a big issue which Speedway has failed to overcome, how do we make Speedway more sexy to the general public ?, the rules and regs certainly dont help it, especially when a rider appears for 1 Team on Monday, another on Thursday and maybe guests for a 3rd Team on Friday, this is just one aspect the sports hierarchy have failed to grasp over many years.

[greyhoundp]

I think Speedway needs to look at Cricket, it was a Sport that was basically dying with county games watched by one man and his dog and thats still the case, International (5 Day) Test Cricket has always been popular, and had very little tweaks and its the income from these Internationals thats distributed down to the counties, and enables the counties to survive, but its the introduction of the shorter version of the game which has saved it and continues to bring in new spectators, with a new competition due to be introduced this season, there were/are no more stick in the muds than the MCC but they realised things had to change if the sport was to survive,  Cricket is also weather dependant as is Speedway and their is very little that can be done about that, they run various competitions of the shorter variety but most of these run when people are able to watch them, they have jazzed the game up to make it more exciting but still rely on someone sending a ball down to either get the other guy out or get whacked as far as the other player can hit the ball, the essential part of the game remains, hit the ball or get out..

Speedway could do worse than run a competition alongside the normal League,  rather than have A&B fixtures run the League as 1 home and away fixture, then have another competition and maybe use handicap racing, Im not suggesting this as a way forward but something different, Iv also suggested previously have some 1 lap races during a meeting, spectators want the instant excitement these days, if they see speedway as being the first out of the gate wins or all over after the first 2 bends then give them what they want.. fast and furious is what spectators want to see, with the 1 lappers have the next race ready to come out as soon as the other riders have completed the race.. just my thoughts on comparing our sport with another sport thats re-invented itself and continues to do so, we really need to do the same or something very similar..

Oh as an after thought, the TV companies love the shorter version of Cricket as well as Test matches, theirs no reason to believe the same should not apply to fast and furious Speedway.. never mind no brakes no fear .

Edited May 9, 2020 by greyhoundp

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

A shorter version for Speedway?

What 1 lap dashes? The meeting split and a point for each section? 

Cant see anything that would be a real difference to what is a shirt burst minute at a time show anyway

[Spl77]

One lap dashes, blimey they used to run them in the second half at Ipswich right up to 89/90

[iris123]

Yes, I remember seeing Phil Morris do one of those one lap track record attempts. Social distancing at its best, but boring as watching paint dry

[greyhoundp]

17 minutes ago, Spl77 said:

One lap dashes, blimey they used to run them in the second half at Ipswich right up to 89/90

 

11 minutes ago, iris123 said:

Yes, I remember seeing Phil Morris do one of those one lap track record attempts. Social distancing at its best, but boring as watching paint dry

 Yes and thats the issue, 1 lappers seen by diehard fans as boring but to the general public thats what speedway is first out of the tapes wins, so we simply have to give them what they want and make Speedway more sexy, Im just putting things out their, lets have some more ideas as to how to get fans to want to watch speedway, but it cant be the same old, same old as Cricket has found out... carry on as it is and its dead everyone knows that its when and not if.. so its change or else.. Note im not saying just 1 lap fast and furious, Im saying yes the same 4 lap procession as we usually see (according to the general public) for 1 home and away fixture, then when that League has finished another League combining Handicap racing and 1 lap fast and furious equivalent to the "Big Bash" yes its only words but 1 lap fast & furious sounds better than 1 lap dash.

Yes im bored after all this lockdown, but lets start thinking outside the box.. before Speedway as we know it is finally put in its box.. 

[iris123]

Yes, but isn’t it the start that is harder on the bikes ? So probably means more cost to the riders for little gain . Just a thought

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

IMO a a 'one lap  dash/fast and furious' call it whatever you like is no equivalent to a 'big bash' 

In big bash terms it would be like having one ball overs and no running

 

 

[gazzac]

Figure of 8 speedway, over 4 laps maybe , fear might keep the racing close, slight design change on the footrest and exhaust might be needed though. 

Edited May 9, 2020 by gazzac

[2ndbendbeerhut]

Clockwise races.....

[scoobydoo]

Thats been happening for years !  or is it just that british speedway has been going backwards for years

[jenga]

7 hours ago, gazzac said:

Figure of 8 speedway, over 4 laps maybe , fear might keep the racing close, slight design change on the footrest and exhaust might be needed though. 

need 2 steel shoes as well ............

[greyhoundp]

Well carry on as we are, I give it how many years 5/7 certainly not 10, look around on the terraces how many under 40,s are their and thats being generous.. a potential sponsor said they didnt like how speedway is presented but it seems the old diehards are perfectly satisfied.. Jeez how long are you going to keep the blinkers on, Speedway is on its knees in the Uk.. but carry on marching the riders out to their bikes, carry on taking 2+ hours to run a meeting that should take 1 hour at most, carry on having tractor racing, carry on having the same riders appearing for 2/3 teams, carry on playing 80,s music between heats, after all its been proven thats what the modern day spectator wants to see not!. Ohhh and i forgot its what major TV companies want to avoid, and Newspapers continue to ignore... but no lets not change anything because it aint broke..