BangerBoy Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 4:42 PM, Chris116 said: I was taken to the 58, 59, 60, 62, 63, 65 and 67 Wembley finals with the 59 win by my hero Ronnie Moore being my favourite. My mother loved the 62 final as Peter Craven who she adored won. I had not wanted to go in 62 as the Spedeworth F2 World Final was at our local Wimbledon but I had to wait until the second meeting to see the Spedeworth cars. By 1969 I was deemed old enough to go by myself to the Superstox (as the Spedeworth F2's had become) World Final at Wimbledon while my parents went to Wembley for the Speedway and my mother was very unhappy when she got home and found that her Stock Car hero, Alan Wardropper, had won the Superstox crown! Sadly she never saw him race with the Gold roof as he went to South Africa for a winter tour and retired from racing before he returned to this country. The Wembley atmosphere was, as many have said, magic. But then Wimbledon with a full house for either Speedway or Stock Cars also had that magic feeling and so did many other tracks. An empty stadium will never get that feeling even if the racing is wonderful. Ah happy memories of superstox world finals at Wimbledon. Watched both sports in those days could not beat the excitement of the Supers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, steve roberts said: I'm intrugued Sid! Did Briggo easily beat Ivan or was it a close call? Not easy Steve he rode a faultless line against Ivan, such a shame Barry gave Bernie the bolt that hole on the inside to exploit.For me though it was a irresponsible move and he should of gradually moved through on the line not bulldoze his way through like he did.I think Barry to this day has never forgiven Bernie for that crazy move. Edited March 29, 2020 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 11:03 AM, steve roberts said: Agreed. I did attend the 2003 Grand Prix at Cardiff but left feeling rather empty...just didn't give me the same buzz. Totally agree Steve even the great Chris Harris win at Cardiff was not the same as all of my Wembley visits.I think mainly it was so special for me because i went with my dad ( who was not a fan). To spend time with him was special usually overtime stopped my dad doing much with me over the years i can still remember dad prounoucing the great Ivan MAUGER rather than MAJOR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Not easy Steve he rode a faultless line against Ivan, such a shame Barry gave Bernie the bolt that hole on the inside to exploit.For me though it was a irresponsible move and he should of gradually moved through on the line not bulldoze his way through like he did.I think Barry to this day has never forgiven Bernie for that crazy move. I think he used the term "Jerk" when interviewed in 'Backtrack' some years ago. To be fair to Bernie there was slight gap and Briggo admitted that he should have rode tighter and Persson went for it...how he wasn't excluded I don't know but I speak as one who was delighted that Hans didn't suffer an exclusion during the 1986 Final! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Totally agree Steve even the great Chris Harris win at Cardiff was not the same as all of my Wembley visits.I think mainly it was so special for me because i went with my dad ( who was not a fan). To spend time with him was special usually overtime stopped my dad doing much with me over the years i can still remember dad prounoucing the great Ivan MAUGER rather than MAJOR. The BBC commentator Alan Weeks also referred to Ivan as same I remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: The BBC commentator Alan Weeks also referred to Ivan as same I remember? Bob Danvers-Walker did in a Pathe News clip, I know that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, chunky said: Bob Danvers-Walker did in a Pathe News clip, I know that. Rememeber Alan Weeks commentating for the BBC when for some reason their only interest in speedway during the early/middle seventies was televising the Wills Internationale from Plough Lane! I think Tony Gubba used to commentate also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, steve roberts said: Rememeber Alan Weeks commentating for the BBC when for some reason their only interest in speedway during the early/middle seventies was televising the Wills Internationale from Plough Lane! I think Tony Gubba used to commentate also? Tony Gubba did the 1978 BLRC championship at Belle Vue in which Olsen won, Gubba for me like Brian Moore , Gerald Sinstadt , Gerry Harrison, Keith Macklin were all sport commentators that i liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, steve roberts said: Rememeber Alan Weeks commentating for the BBC when for some reason their only interest in speedway during the early/middle seventies was televising the Wills Internationale from Plough Lane! I think Tony Gubba used to commentate also? Never could work out why the Internationale was the only thing they wanted. However, in later years Grandstand developed an interest in grass-track, which was surprising, and Murray Walker did those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Tony Gubba did the 1978 BLRC championship at Belle Vue in which Olsen won, Gubba for me like Brian Moore , Gerald Sinstadt , Gerry Harrison, Keith Macklin were all sport commentators that i liked. I also liked Hugh Johns. I know the Beeb had some good ones, but I always preferred ITV for sport, particularly footy. Of course, BBC had all the cricket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 Yes remember him doing all the Midland games when it was Wolves Billy Wright also co commentated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:i can still remember dad prounoucing the great Ivan MAUGER rather than MAJOR. I can remember going up to Wembley one year on the Underground and got talking to a Newcastle supporter. He kept calling him Mauger and I kept saying Major. In the end I asked him why he pronounced it Mauger. He said, "It's auger without the M isn't it, so it must be Mauger with an M." Couldn't argue with that logic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 Sorry Sidney, I don't know what happened to your quote, but you know the one I mean!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, norbold said: "It's auger without the M isn't it, so it must be Mauger with an M." Couldn't argue with that logic! Actually, you can! Rough is "ruff" without the T, so pigs must eat from a "truff"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Tony Gubba did the 1978 BLRC championship at Belle Vue in which Olsen won, Gubba for me like Brian Moore , Gerald Sinstadt , Gerry Harrison, Keith Macklin were all sport commentators that i liked. Blimey some names there Sid...Gerald Sinstadt remember well and had forgotten about. My particular favourite was Kenneth Wolstenholme...no gimmicks or shouting down the mic. Just informimg the viewer what was required allowing the action do the talking. Hugh Johns on "Star Soccer" and of course David Coleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, chunky said: I also liked Hugh Johns. I know the Beeb had some good ones, but I always preferred ITV for sport, particularly footy. Of course, BBC had all the cricket... Always watched the FA Cup Final on BBC and "Match of the Day" on Saturday evenings. Would watch either "The Big Match" or "Star Soccer" (we managed to get both) but it got in the way of wanting to be outside emulating our heroes from watching the night before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, norbold said: Sorry Sidney, I don't know what happened to your quote, but you know the one I mean!!! Great stuff Norbold , did you ever see Young ride as a division 2 rider.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, steve roberts said: Always watched the FA Cup Final on BBC and "Match of the Day" on Saturday evenings. Would watch either "The Big Match" or "Star Soccer" (we managed to get both) but it got in the way of wanting to be outside emulating our heroes from watching the night before! My greatest football memories were watching those great early 1970s teams of Leeds Utd play.There were a great team but in reality underachieved badly they were on quite alot with Keith Macklin commentating.Then after that those great Sir Bobby Robson Ipswich sides Sir Bobby was years ahead of his time he helped mould Cooper,Burley,Mills,Beattie,Mariner and my favourite Eric Gates he was a legend of a manager.That masterstroke of selling Brian Talbot for a huge fee and then getting in Muhren/Thyssen Muhren was one hell of a player even when ageing he was some player for Man Utd great days great football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: My greatest football memories were watching those great early 1970s teams of Leeds Utd play.There were a great team but in reality underachieved badly they were on quite alot with Keith Macklin commentating.Then after that those great Sir Bobby Robson Ipswich sides Sir Bobby was years ahead of his time he helped mould Cooper,Burley,Mills,Beattie,Mariner and my favourite Eric Gates he was a legend of a manager.That masterstroke of selling Brian Talbot for a huge fee and then getting in Muhren/Thyssen Muhren was one hell of a player even when ageing he was some player for Man Utd great days great football. ...and Sunderland came along and stuffed them in 1973 FA Cup Final! Yes I would agree that Leeds were packed full of talent unfortunately they often resorted to dirty tactics when on the pitch which was to their detriment.. Interesting reading Brian Clough's book and how he despised them (especially Don Revie) but ended up managing them albeit for a short while and walked away with a big fat cheque! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Great stuff Norbold , did you ever see Young ride as a division 2 rider.? Do me a favour, Sidney, I'm not as old as Gustix! I did see him at the end of his career at New Cross in 1961when he won two Individual Trophies, the Tom Farndon Memorial Trophy and the King of the South in 1961, beating Ove Fundin, Barry Briggs, Ronnie Moore, Peter Craven and Bjorn Knutson in the process. I felt quite privileged in seeing Youngie at his best and can only imagine what he must have been like in his prime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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