pvm Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just as a matter of interest, How will medical cover be affected, will medical cover be available to hold meetings? The way things are going it's going to be" all hands on Deck" to keep the NHS running. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, MattK said: As it stands our infection rate is growing at around 20%, whereas Italy's was 35% before they announced their effective shutdown, which suggests we are no where near in as bad a state as they were. Again I agree with the majority of your reply. However, there is no way we as a country can now keep an accurate track of our infection rate now the advice given today which stated that if you have symptoms, just self isolate and don't bother calling the doc or 111. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 Speedway should take a lead and delay the start of the season. The sport has the mentality of a non league football club. No one goes, so no one will be affected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 8 hours ago, pvm said: Just as a matter of interest, How will medical cover be affected, will medical cover be available to hold meetings? The way things are going it's going to be" all hands on Deck" to keep the NHS running. God point, not thought of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) I think It is blindingly obvious that the season will not be going ahead as planned despite statements to the contrary. The UK government policy at this stage is only delay the progress of the virus as far as possible so that the most draconian of measures are only needed further down the line and for the shortest time posssible. But all the advice they are working to is that it is still inevitable they will come in. In a couple of weeks time that will include all events like speedway for almost certain and the restrictions will they have to stay in place through April and in to May. That is when the peak of it all is expected. Those countries that have set off doing this as early as now will just face having the worst measures in place for the longest duration. But... All sports will be closed at some point soon because the sportsmen and associated workers will be going down with the virus themselves and isolating. That will make the 'sport' redundant. In addition emergency measures relating to ambulance/paramedics (even private ones) will take the decisions out of of the sports authorities hands. Quite quickly we will be recognising just what this means ... No SGB, no SGP and no SON. We are fooling ourselves to think otherwise and should start preparing for a limited sporting schedule in high summer and beyond. Edited March 13, 2020 by Grand Central 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 Seems to me that schools closing are likely to put many of the more vulnerable in harms way as in so many cases Grandparents will be taking on the childcare. So in a classroom where one vulnerable teacher might be at risk from say 30 students we could have 20 or 30 grandparents at risk from the same children. Whatever measures you take to try and limit the spread will always have consequences and the very best you are gong to do is slow it down a bit. My opinion is that we should let the majority of the population carry on as normal and put all resources into testing and helping the most vulnerable. Those people could be receiving some very good care already if those who are very unlikely to suffer more than a dose of flu weren't so selfish. Speaking to somebody working on the NHS helpline last night and she was telling me how at one time they had 200 calls waiting and dropped 2000 calls. People waiting an hour to chat about their cold and a GP refusing to see a vomiting child supposedly because of coronavirus when it's not even a symptom. How many of those dropped calls were from people in genuine need of help who were put at risk by the same selfish morons that think toilet rolls are the answer? It is mass hysteria whipped up by the press and now politicians have been put under pressure to act solely because of the public concern created. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vince said: Seems to me that schools closing are likely to put many of the more vulnerable in harms way as in so many cases Grandparents will be taking on the childcare. So in a classroom where one vulnerable teacher might be at risk from say 30 students we could have 20 or 30 grandparents at risk from the same children. Whatever measures you take to try and limit the spread will always have consequences and the very best you are gong to do is slow it down a bit. My opinion is that we should let the majority of the population carry on as normal and put all resources into testing and helping the most vulnerable. Those people could be receiving some very good care already if those who are very unlikely to suffer more than a dose of flu weren't so selfish. Speaking to somebody working on the NHS helpline last night and she was telling me how at one time they had 200 calls waiting and dropped 2000 calls. People waiting an hour to chat about their cold and a GP refusing to see a vomiting child supposedly because of coronavirus when it's not even a symptom. How many of those dropped calls were from people in genuine need of help who were put at risk by the same selfish morons that think toilet rolls are the answer? It is mass hysteria whipped up by the press and now politicians have been put under pressure to act solely because of the public concern created. You paint a very accurate picture of the situation out there and the sub optimal response of many people and groups .... But it is the reality of how a population DOES respond and it is that very reality that the policy makers have to bear in mind when making their decisions. Wishing for it to be otherwise is friutless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 at the moment cant see sporting events even getting of the ground just have to see what happens I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 Don't understand the panic and pessimism on here. Leave it to the EXPERTS who seem to believe that large or small outdoor crowds are not an issue and that for the time being events can go ahead. IF a Speedway rider gets the virus, no doubt his Club(s) should have a different view as Arsenal have had with their manager. Its up to the individual to decide, I'm going to Birmingham if it's on and will take the risk. What's the point of closing schools??. Keep the little blighters together in groups of their own age range and self isolate if any get symptoms. Why, because if schools are closed the little blighters are far more likely to be running about surrounded by older folk like me who they are far more likely to infect in Sainsburys between 9 and 5 if they are unleashed. Once you impose a ban on sport, how long does it last, 4 weeks, 8 weeks, 12 weeks..I think if you ban speedway until July/August, then you will kill half the clubs as people will find something else to do and won't return for a meaningless 1/2 season. If it has to close, it has to close, but panic never won any argument. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, HGould said: Don't understand the panic and pessimism on here. Leave it to the EXPERTS who seem to believe that large or small outdoor crowds are not an issue. The problem is precisely that its not being left to the experts and the panic mongers must be appeased.. The media has a section of the public too scared now. Some believe its a death sentence if their 14 year old daughter catches it.. yet there is more chance of them being run over by a car than dying from coronavirus. As for imposing all the bans on sports, realistically, if you're doing that over 4800 deaths.. it should never run again in the winter. I read that the CDC figures showed influenza deaths to be over 60,000 in the same time period as Covid-19 has killed 4800. Forget the differences between the two for a moment, and imagine if the media were hyping 60,000 deaths... Edited March 13, 2020 by BWitcher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, BWitcher said: The problem is precisely that its not being left to the experts and the panic mongers must be appeased.. The media has a section of the public too scared now. Some believe its a death sentence if their 14 year old daughter catches it.. yet there is more chance of them being run over by a car than dying from coronavirus. As for imposing all the bans on sports, realistically, if you're doing that over 4800 deaths.. it should never run again in the winter. I read that the CDC figures showed influenza deaths to be over 60,000 in the same time period as Covid-19 has killed 4800. Forget the differences between the two for a moment, and imagine if the media were hyping 60,000 deaths... Agree with you that the media have everyone running scared. I, my husband and especially my daughter are in the high risk groups but intend to carry life on as normal as much as possible but taking sensible precautions. As for large gatherings, I think they will be banned but more to give the emergency services a break than for infection control. Paramedics etc will be stretched to the limit in the near future so standing about at concerts/sports events etc is not a good use of their time in these circumstances. Health workers etc will be in the front line of this and we should be grateful to them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesR Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Seems UK football cancelled until 3rd April at least https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/coronavirus-england-vs-italy-denmark-cancelled-wembley-tickets-refunds-a9399686.html A statement from The FA read: “The FA, Premier League, EFL and FA Women’s Super League and FA Women’s Championship have collectively agreed to postpone the professional game in England until 3 April at the earliest. “This action, which will be kept under constant review, has been taken due to the increasing numbers of clubs taking steps to isolate their players and staff because of the Covid-19 virus. “It will also apply to all England team fixtures at every level and all FA competitions including the FA Cup and the Women’s FA Cup, along with academy and youth-team matches. Edited March 13, 2020 by LesR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, HGould said: Don't understand the panic and pessimism on here. Leave it to the EXPERTS who seem to believe that large or small outdoor crowds are not an issue and that for the time being events can go ahead. IF a Speedway rider gets the virus, no doubt his Club(s) should have a different view as Arsenal have had with their manager. Its up to the individual to decide, I'm going to Birmingham if it's on and will take the risk. What's the point of closing schools??. Keep the little blighters together in groups of their own age range and self isolate if any get symptoms. Why, because if schools are closed the little blighters are far more likely to be running about surrounded by older folk like me who they are far more likely to infect in Sainsburys between 9 and 5 if they are unleashed. Once you impose a ban on sport, how long does it last, 4 weeks, 8 weeks, 12 weeks..I think if you ban speedway until July/August, then you will kill half the clubs as people will find something else to do and won't return for a meaningless 1/2 season. If it has to close, it has to close, but panic never won any argument. My earlier post was neither expressing panic nor pessimism ... Just the reality of the world situation we are now in for the next few months. Not days and weeks. I wholeheartedly agree with the ridiculous business of closing schools ... But once they are closed at the levels of infection we have on closure date It will be a impossible to open again until the infection levels are actually REDUCED ... That will not be until mid summer. Varadkar is saying they are shut in Ireland until March 29 ... Utter BS. The infection rates then will be greater on that date than today. The truth is that than once the decision is taken to close the same people will not be able to open again until the end of the school year has arrived. The UK approach so far seems the most sensible. But the plans we have in the UK will still involve these major closedowns in the weeks to come. And that is not because of media led panic. That is what the science does predict. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 British ice hockey league now cancelled, polish speedway due to start April 3 almost certain not to start, big doubts on the GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 BRITISH SPEEDWAY STATEMENT: CORONAVIRUS UDPDATE Friday March 13, 2020 A NEW season of British Speedway will start as planned this weekend. The British Speedway Promoters’ Association can confirm there are no plans to cancel, postpone or otherwise change the running of our fixtures at this moment in time. We are closely monitoring the situation and it is business as usual following the information broadcast by Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Thursday afternoon. As an association we will continue to work from the advice handed down by the government regarding the ongoing situation. We would urge all riders, staff and supporters to continue to adhere by the advice regarding frequent washing of hands in soap and water and avoiding contact with anyone who has a fever or cough. We also remind people of the government advice regarding even mild symptoms, if you feel this is the case please stay at home for seven days. In the meantime, we look forward to a successful staging of the Speedway Riders’ Benevolent Fund meeting at Scunthorpe on Saturday and hope substantial funds are raised for this most worthwhile cause. Share This: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldHawk Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 I agree with City Rebel. The responsible thing to do is to postpone the start of the season. Its a no brainer, the less people you meet the less likely you are to contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, OldHawk said: I agree with City Rebel. The responsible thing to do is to postpone the start of the season. Its a no brainer, the less people you meet the less likely you are to contract. Yes, keep the panic and over reaction going. Ignore all medical advice. That's the spirit! 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, OldHawk said: I agree with City Rebel. The responsible thing to do is to postpone the start of the season. Its a no brainer, the less people you meet the less likely you are to contract. Sadly despite our own feelings if we miss our speedway fix I cant see any other decision now from SCB/BSPA. I am sure they will fall in line with others? Its going to be a tough time for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 As they are self-employed, how long can riders go without being paid, especially the journeymen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 The clowns in Rugby will have to fall in line with other sports but It won’t make much difference as speedway is well used to running to empty stadiums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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