Corona virus

[iris123]

Prisoners also are allowed out on day release. But we won’t mention that

[TB1]

44 minutes ago, iris123 said:

Prisoners also are allowed out on day release. But we won’t mention that

Unfortunately we are all now prisoners in this totalitarian state! 

[Diamondboy]

17 hours ago, Crumpet77 said:

Proving that you can't ever control a virus in a modern society, to think you can is delusional nonsense.

Must mention that no prisoners were allowed to leave the prison for any reason, apart from medical emergency, after March 23rd. In fact, many have been confined to their cells for 23 hours a day. 

 

But they still interact with people who come and go from the prison. So your point of an extreme lockdown is nonsense because it is no such thing. 

[iris123]

15 minutes ago, Crumpet77 said:

I think you might be missing the point. No one is immune from a virus whatever you do as lockdowns only delay things,

Bingo, you got it. That was the point. Delay things so the hospitals wouldn’t be overwhelmed. Flatten the curve was the mantra

[Mr. Clemens]

22 hours ago, TB1 said:

Unfortunately we are all now prisoners in this totalitarian state! 

 

 

It's always been a totalitarian state people always notice it more in times of stress

 

 

[TB1]

3 hours ago, Mr. Clemens said:

 

 

It's always been a totalitarian state people always notice it more in times of stress

 

 

Probably true, indeed one well known national journalist said on radio the other day that he was shocked that almost no one is challenging the government and the policies. In fact the opposition agree with them, just not the way they are implemented. Democracy died a long time ago.

[BWitcher]

6 hours ago, iris123 said:

Bingo, you got it. That was the point. Delay things so the hospitals wouldn’t be overwhelmed. Flatten the curve was the mantra

WAS.. 

That isn't the case now though is it?

[chris4gillian]

On 8/9/2020 at 3:24 PM, BWitcher said:

Bless. 

Sadly, flu/pneumonia figures haven't fallen, in fact they've remained fluctuating around their normal levels.. 

So the precautions have been shown to have done nothing to stop the spread of viruses.

You've been told many times that other than similar symptoms the flu and Covid act in different ways.  That is why one has reduced in numbers and the other hasn't.

When are you going to accept this?

[Tsunami]

12 hours ago, TB1 said:

Probably true, indeed one well known national journalist said on radio the other day that he was shocked that almost no one is challenging the government and the policies. In fact the opposition agree with them, just not the way they are implemented. Democracy died a long time ago.

Surely that is a good example of democracy.  

[BWitcher]

3 hours ago, chris4gillian said:

You've been told many times that other than similar symptoms the flu and Covid act in different ways.  That is why one has reduced in numbers and the other hasn't.

When are you going to accept this?

And you've been shown that you are 100% wrong, so it doesn't matter how many times you say it.

As per the CDC.
 

HOW IT SPREADS

Both COVID-19 and flu can spread from person-to-person, between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet). Both are spread mainly by droplets made when people with the illness (COVID-19 or flu) cough, sneeze, or talk. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

It may be possible that a person can get infected by physical human contact (e.g. shaking hands) or by touching a surface or object that has virus on it and then touching his or her own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes.

Both flu virus and the virus that causes COVID-19 may be spread to others by people before they begin showing symptoms, with very mild symptoms or who never developed symptoms (asymptomatic).

Differences

While COVID-19 and flu viruses are thought to spread in similar ways, COVID-19 is more contagious among certain populations and age groups than flu. Also, COVID-19 has been observed to have more superspreading events than flu. This means the virus that causes COVID-19 can quickly and easily spread to a lot of people and result in continuous spreading among people as time progresses.

Meanwhile the WHO tells us:
 

How are COVID-19 and influenza viruses similar?

Firstly, COVID-19 and influenza viruses have a similar disease presentation. That is, they both cause respiratory disease, which presents as a wide range of illness from asymptomatic or mild through to severe disease and death.

Secondly, both viruses are transmitted by contact, droplets and fomites. As a result, the same public health measures, such as hand hygiene and good respiratory etiquette (coughing into your elbow or into a tissue and immediately disposing of the tissue), are important actions all can take to prevent infection.

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So in summary, you are completely and utterly wrong in your assertion that their differences are why the flu/pneumonia numbers have not changed in the past few months, whilst Covid has.

If anything, the fact that Covid is supposed to spread easier renders your suggestion even more invalid.

Edited August 12, 2020 by BWitcher

[IainB]

4 hours ago, chris4gillian said:

You've been told many times that other than similar symptoms the flu and Covid act in different ways.  That is why one has reduced in numbers and the other hasn't.

When are you going to accept this?

You're wasting your time chris4gillian 

[BWitcher]

10 minutes ago, iainb said:

You're wasting your time chris4gillian 

He is, as he is wrong and proven so without a single element of doubt.

Or perhaps he knows more than the CDC (Centre for Disease Control and Prevention), ONS (Office of National Statistics), WHO (World Health Organsiation) and every single other medical organisation in the world who state they are transmitted in the same way.

Edited August 12, 2020 by BWitcher

[IainB]

2 hours ago, BWitcher said:

He is, as he is wrong and proven so without a single element of doubt.

Or perhaps he knows more than the CDC (Centre for Disease Control and Prevention), ONS (Office of National Statistics), WHO (World Health Organsiation) and every single other medical organisation in the world who state they are transmitted in the same way.

See you next Tuesday

[BWitcher]

28 minutes ago, iainb said:

See you next Tuesday

Yep, when we learn of another 800 or so folks who have died due to fear spread by scaremongerers.

 

[IainB]

53 minutes ago, BWitcher said:

Yep, when we learn of another 800 or so folks who have died due to fear spread by scaremongerers.

 

see you next Tuesday 

[Gringo]

Fans are to be allowed into the World Snooker Championship final this weekend. 

Possibly 300 out of a capacity of 980.

With more pilot events to be announced shortly.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Gringo

[TB1]

The latest radio propaganda sorry 'advert' from the government is a cafe owner who at the end says ' we must all follow the guidelines to stay open'.

Now I take this a veiled threat that if you don't do as you are told then we are all back on the naughty step.

When is anybody going to stand up to this dictatorship?

[IainB]

9 minutes ago, TB1 said:

The latest radio propaganda sorry 'advert' from the government is a cafe owner who at the end says ' we must all follow the guidelines to stay open'.

Now I take this a veiled threat that if you don't do as you are told then we are all back on the naughty step.

When is anybody going to stand up to this dictatorship?

You could always up sticks and move to the US, Brazil, Mexico or India 

[chris4gillian]

On 8/12/2020 at 5:02 PM, BWitcher said:

Yep, when we learn of another 800 or so folks who have died due to fear spread by scaremongerers.

 

You obviously have no idea what iainb is saying 

[BWitcher]

On 8/14/2020 at 5:12 PM, iainb said:

You could always up sticks and move to the US, Brazil, Mexico or India 

Keep laughing whilst people die.

Sick.