Corona virus

[Badge]

1 minute ago, DC2 said:

My girlfriend’s parents are 77 and 79 but haven’t received a letter. One has a heart condition and contacted the doctor to check but was told that only certain conditions make one “vulnerable” regardless of age.

That's interesting as my brother in law 80 who has had by pass surgery and is on warfarin,  he spent about 3 months late last year in and out of hospital with diverticulitis and inflammation of gall bladder,  has been type 2 diabetes for several years and my sister in law aged 78 asmatic diabetic and last December was in hospital with pneumonia both assure us that they have had no letter. 

[DC2]

10 minutes ago, Badge said:

That's interesting as my brother in law 80 who has had by pass surgery and is on warfarin,  he spent about 3 months late last year in and out of hospital with diverticulitis and inflammation of gall bladder,  has been type 2 diabetes for several years and my sister in law aged 78 asmatic diabetic and last December was in hospital with pneumonia both assure us that they have had no letter. 

Yes, I can believe that.

The vulnerable list seems to be confined to the terminally ill and those who have had life saving treatments like chemotherapy or open heart surgery in the last six months.

But they should check with their doctor.

[wealdstone]

Wife  has had two letters, two phone calls and a personal visit.  Has assured  those concerned that we do not need the free food parcel ( even though Chapman  has kept my season ticket money).  She was told that she would probably  get a parcel and if it was not needed to give it to local food bank. There is a suspicion it seems that when food parcels are refused the driver takes then home although they are supposed to take them to the food bank.

[wealdstone]

2 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Yes, I can believe that.

The vulnerable list seems to be confined to the terminally ill and those who have had life saving treatments like chemotherapy or open heart surgery in the last six months.

But they should check with their doctor.

That is totally untrue , but it does seem very hit and miss. See my post re wife.

[Badge]

5 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Yes, I can believe that.

The vulnerable list seems to be confined to the terminally ill and those who have had life saving treatments like chemotherapy or open heart surgery in the last six months.

But they should check with their doctor.

Lol I truly suspect that they may well have had a letter but won't tell us. They are both fine and go out once a week shopping.  I also suspect he will have gone to a garden centre as he's missing his plants. 

Whereas my 94 year old mother had a phone call from her doctor telling her to stay home, she was furious as she felt it was because she was old rather than any illness , mind you she lives in a warden controlled flat and that was locked down March 20th anyway.

Edited May 15, 2020 by Badge

[wealdstone]

2 minutes ago, Badge said:

Lol I truly suspect that they may well have had a letter but won't tell us. They are both fine and go out once a week shopping.  I also suspect he will have gone to a garden centre as he's missing his plants. 

I suspect you are right ,I know of some who have had the letter but choose to reject the advice and restrictions

[Grand Central]

4 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Yes, I can believe that.

The vulnerable list seems to be confined to the terminally ill and those who have had life saving treatments like chemotherapy or open heart surgery in the last six months.

But they should check with their doctor.

Not true at all.

55 years old with diabetes that seems impossible to get under control was sufficient to get me the shielding letter at the end of March. 

From the many conversations I have had with others; none would back up the criteria you believe is operating for shielding advice.

[BluPanther]

9 minutes ago, Grand Central said:

Not true at all.

55 years old with diabetes that seems impossible to get under control was sufficient to get me the shielding letter at the end of March. 

From the many conversations I have had with others; none would back up the criteria you believe is operating for shielding advice.

Everyone i know with type one diabetes got the shielding letter, regardless of age...

[Star Lady]

As I understand it, and I could be wrong, the first letters went out to those that hospitals considered should be shielded. Others were added to the list when GP practices went thro their lists. Think the list has been updated a couple of times. 

My daughter didn't receive her letter until 2-3 weeks ago although we knew from online forums that she should be on the list and acted accordingly before lockdown was announced. We haven't had a food parcel as we said we don't need one, local businesses doing deliveries and lately supermarkets but the local council do arrange for medication to be collected and delivered to us for which we ar very grateful. 

 

[DC2]

25 minutes ago, wealdstone said:

That is totally untrue , but it does seem very hit and miss. See my post re wife.

Which part of what I said is “totally untrue”?

Here’s the vulnerable list, according to the NHS it’s people who:
 

have had an organ transplant

are having chemotherapy or antibody treatment for cancer, including immunotherapy

are having an intense course of radiotherapy (radical radiotherapy) for lung cancer

are having targeted cancer treatments that can affect the immune system (such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors)

have blood or bone marrow cancer (such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma)

have had a bone marrow or stem cell transplant in the past 6 months, or are still taking immunosuppressant medicine

have been told by a doctor they you have a severe lung condition (such as cystic fibrosis, severe asthma or severe COPD)

have a condition that means they have a very high risk of getting infections (such as SCID or sickle cell)

are taking medicine that makes them much more likely to get infections (such as high doses of steroids)

have a serious heart condition and are pregnant

[Bald Bloke]

33 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Yes, I can believe that.

The vulnerable list seems to be confined to the terminally ill and those who have had life saving treatments like chemotherapy or open heart surgery in the last six months.

But they should check with their doctor.

56 with COPD. No hospital visits for years. I've had 2 letters and a phone call. Guess they think i'm nearly fu***ed lol  

[Grand Central]

31 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

Everyone i know with type one diabetes got the shielding letter, regardless of age...

Yes. I only mentioned my age, because it is my age !!

[DC2]

48 minutes ago, Grand Central said:

Not true at all.

55 years old with diabetes that seems impossible to get under control was sufficient to get me the shielding letter at the end of March. 

From the many conversations I have had with others; none would back up the criteria you believe is operating for shielding advice.

Could you screenshot your letter and post it on here?  Obviously, don’t show your name and address.

I would like to see one of those as you don’t seem to qualify as “vulnerable” (although I’ve noticed the NHS has now changed this to “extremely vulnerable) and my mother in law has been very concerned that she hasn’t been told to shield (although she is) and she doesn’t qualify for deliveries.

[DC2]

27 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

56 with COPD. No hospital visits for years. I've had 2 letters and a phone call. Guess they think i'm nearly fu***ed lol  

So you’ve been told to SHIELD and you’re not allowed to leave your property?

[Mimmo]

47 minutes ago, Star Lady said:

 We haven't had a food parcel as we said we don't need one, local businesses doing deliveries and lately supermarkets but the local council do arrange for medication to be collected and delivered to us for which we ar very grateful. 

 

We're exactly the same Meg, my wife isn't allowed to leave the house other than for chemo at hospital for the double lung cancer, amongst others.  We've never been offered a food parcel, but would say "No thank you" if it was offered, because as you say, with people delivering or offering to gets bits 'n pieces for us, that would be unfair on those that genuinely need it.

Hope you're keeping well.  

[BluPanther]

30 minutes ago, Grand Central said:

Yes. I only mentioned my age, because it is my age !!

I never doubted you GC 

[Grand Central]

13 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Could you screenshot your letter and post it on here?  Obviously, don’t show your name and address.

I would like to see one of those as you don’t seem to qualify as “vulnerable” (although I’ve noticed the NHS has now changed this to “extremely vulnerable) and my mother in law has been very concerned that she hasn’t been told to shield (although she is) and she doesn’t qualify for deliveries.

My letter went missing some weeks ago  ...  It was about five pages long recommending 12 weeks shielding plus all the information on food parcels and mental health assistance.

I have no memory that the word 'vulnerable' was ever specifically used. The terminology was that as I had a significant health condition I had been identified as being more likely to require hospitalization if I contracted the virus and would be more likely to suffer more serious complications as a result.

I know they letter was modified later in April to set shielding to June 30 for those identified later by other protocols, but it is standard letter that every one chosen gets.

[wealdstone]

57 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Which part of what I said is “totally untrue”?

Here’s the vulnerable list, according to the NHS it’s people who:
 

have had an organ transplant

are having chemotherapy or antibody treatment for cancer, including immunotherapy

are having an intense course of radiotherapy (radical radiotherapy) for lung cancer

are having targeted cancer treatments that can affect the immune system (such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors)

have blood or bone marrow cancer (such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma)

have had a bone marrow or stem cell transplant in the past 6 months, or are still taking immunosuppressant medicine

have been told by a doctor they you have a severe lung condition (such as cystic fibrosis, severe asthma or severe COPD)

have a condition that means they have a very high risk of getting infections (such as SCID or sickle cell)

are taking medicine that makes them much more likely to get infections (such as high doses of steroids)

have a serious heart condition and are pregnant

Previously you said the vulnerable list seems to be confined to  terminally  ill, those receiving life saving treatments or had open heart surgery. 

[Bald Bloke]

39 minutes ago, DC2 said:

So you’ve been told to SHIELD and you’re not allowed to leave your property?

Yep.

 

Edited May 15, 2020 by Bald Bloke

[DC2]

11 minutes ago, wealdstone said:

Previously you said the vulnerable list seems to be confined to  terminally  ill, those receiving life saving treatments or had open heart surgery. 

 

Isn’t that what the NHS list says?