HGould Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, BWitcher said: What risk would the riders be taking? I wasn't aware we had many 65+ aged riders. Go check the number of fit under 50's dying and show some respect! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HGould said: Go check the number of fit under 50's dying and show some respect! I already have. Now go check it against the number of under 50's dying from other things and learn some context. If you're under 50 and healthy you have more chance of being killed in a car crash than dying from Covid-19. It's nothing to do with 'respect'.. it's to do with reality. Edited April 26, 2020 by BWitcher 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Someone has been watching too much MSM and drunk their kool aid BS. The best way to control people is to keep them afraid, you certainly prove that point ... I hope you don't lose family or friends like I have. Maybe if you had you'd not be so arrogant and have some respect? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HGould said: I hope you don't lose family or friends like I have. Maybe if you had you'd not be so arrogant and have some respect? That has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at all. You've made claims that are false, been shown to be wrong and are now trotting out nonsense. No disrespect is being shown to anyone who dies, death is always tragic, whatever the circumstances. Sorry to hear of any loss you have had. Edited April 26, 2020 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, HGould said: I hope you don't lose family or friends like I have. Maybe if you had you'd not be so arrogant and have some respect? Sorry for your loss, but it helps if your comments are fueled by facts, rather than emotion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HGould said: Go check the number of fit under 50's dying and show some respect! About 300 out of 20,000 hospital deaths. Actually, that’s under 65s so I doubt it’s more than 100 under 50. Edited April 26, 2020 by DC2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, DC2 said: About 300 out of 20,000 hospital deaths. Actually, that’s under 65s so I doubt it’s more than 100 under 50. And even less when you add in 'fit'.. i.e. no serious underlying condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, BWitcher said: And even less when you add in 'fit'.. i.e. no serious underlying condition. The 300 is under 60 without underlying conditions. The total under 60 including underlying conditions is 1,623. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, DC2 said: The 300 is under 60 without underlying conditions. The total under 60 including underlying conditions is 1,623. Fair point.. but even less Under 50 as you say.. and given most speedway riders are under 40, even less still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Interesting thread, well worth a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Interesting thread, well worth a read. Very poor actually, very one dimensional, seems to be trying to insinuate that every excess death is Covid-19 when clearly that is not the case. The majority of them are Covid-19. Some recorded as Covid are not Covid. Some countries won't be revealing their true Covid figures There will be many excess deaths caused by lockdown that aren't Covid related. Edited April 27, 2020 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, BWitcher said: Very poor actually, very one dimensional, seems to be trying to insinuate that every excess death is Covid-19 when clearly that is not the case. The majority of them are Covid-19. Some recorded as Covid are not Covid. Some countries won't be revealing their true Covid figures There will be many excess deaths caused by lockdown that aren't Covid related. We should be loking at new cases not deaths to give us an idea of the way the lockdown is working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Skodaman said: We should be loking at new cases not deaths to give us an idea of the way the lockdown is working! No. Deaths is the only definitive measure, despite being subject to a doctor’s judgment of the cause of death. New cases are more arbitrary, depending on people deciding whether or not to go to hospital, and a testing system that gives too many false negatives (which is why we’re now seeing half of the tests being re-done). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Going slightly off topic but I noticed over the weekend ( and not much about it in the press) but the chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee has accused the Chinese of being less than transparent over their reporting of the virus! Me thinks he's stuck his hand in a hornet's nest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Staggering to see some sticking to their guns on this. Some nailed their colours to the mast early doors on this virus with their “glorified flu” nonsense and clearly don’t like to admit they were wrong on the internet. It’s ok to hold your hands up and say you misjudged just how bad this horrible virus was/is! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Staggering to see some sticking to their guns on this. Some nailed their colours to the mast early doors on this virus with their “glorified flu” nonsense and clearly don’t like to admit they were wrong on the internet. It’s ok to hold your hands up and say you misjudged just how bad this horrible virus was/is! Imperial College London says Coronavirus kills 0.6% to 0.9% of those infected while flu kills 0.2%. Sounds like glorified flu to me apart from the fact that it doesn’t kill children in any numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Staggering to see some sticking to their guns on this. Some nailed their colours to the mast early doors on this virus with their “glorified flu” nonsense and clearly don’t like to admit they were wrong on the internet. It’s ok to hold your hands up and say you misjudged just how bad this horrible virus was/is! 120,000 a year die from flu/pneumonia in UK on average.. Let's see what Covid-19 reaches.. and if it comes back every single year... What's staggering is how such large scale deaths are dismissed as meaningless by folks such as you. Young children and babies in that figure.. all dismissed. Of course Covid-19 is serious, for the elderly and seriously ill. For the rest it quite simply is not. It is the elderly and seriously ill that need protecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, BWitcher said: 120,000 a year die from flu/pneumonia in UK on average.. Let's see what Covid-19 reaches.. and if it comes back every single year... What's staggering is how such large scale deaths are dismissed as meaningless by folks such as you. Young children and babies in that figure.. all dismissed. Of course Covid-19 is serious, for the elderly and seriously ill. For the rest it quite simply is not. It is the elderly and seriously ill that need protecting. The deaths recorded are those who have tested posit for covid 19. This isn’t “instead” of the flu, it’s on top of the flu deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 I have to be honest, I'm a mere layman when it comes to everyone else's expertise and knowledge with Covid 19 on here, oh how I wish I had the analytical nowse and scientific qualifications to keep up with the rest of you wonkers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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