BWitcher Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Badge said: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-patient-in-uk-dies-after-testing-positive-for-covid-19-11950440 Older patient, in and out of hospital, sounds like was on last legs with or without coronavirus. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Older patient, in and out of hospital, sounds like was on last legs with or without coronavirus. Yeah! Bloody bed blocker! Ps. Everybody else, I'm being ironic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 17,000 a year, on average, die from flu in England. Yeah. Whatever. Who cares? 1 already frail person dies in Reading after testing positive for covid-19 and you can't get bog roll any more. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Grachan said: 17,000 a year, on average, die from flu in England. Yeah. Whatever. Who cares? 1 already frail person dies in Reading after testing positive for covid-19 and you can't get bog roll any more. When you say 17,000 of course you actually mean 600 https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, iainb said: When you say 17,000 of course you actually mean 600 https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu 600 v 1... hmm.. As ever, the gullible minorities get wound up by the media and governments are forced to act to appease them.https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1233679/coronavirus-update-symptoms-flu-2020-china-flu-deaths 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, iainb said: When you say 17,000 of course you actually mean 600 https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu Depends where you look, I guess. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-06/how-does-the-wuhan-coronavirus-compare-to-seasonal-flu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Grachan said: Depends where you look, I guess. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-06/how-does-the-wuhan-coronavirus-compare-to-seasonal-flu/ Suppose so... The Daily Express & ITV wouldn't be my first port of call for facts though 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) From a government report into flu vaccines :Since 2003, 860 cases of avian influenza A(H5N1) have been reported including 454 deaths, giving an overall case fatality rate of 53%. Cases have been reported from 16 countries. From 01 January 2018 to 09 April 2019, no futher cases have been reported. Looking at the fatality rate you have to wonder why we are arguing about whether it is 1% or 3% for the current outbreak. Remember bird flu was just as big a thing in the press a few years back as coronavirus is now. https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu would seem to be a reputable source. Average of 600 people die annually in the UK from flu complications however there have been two recent winters where it has been well over 10,000. The latest bad winter of 2013 - 2014 had 11,000 deaths and it has to be remembered that this is against a background of the most vulnerable being vaccinated. The estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths because of flu worldwide each year puts the current situation into some sort of perspective though in my opinion. I'm still not going to stay indoors, wear a mask or avoid people. If any good comes of this perhaps it will make all those minty buggers who leave the toilet without washing their hands change their ways! Edited March 6, 2020 by Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Vince said: From a government report into flu vaccines :Since 2003, 860 cases of avian influenza A(H5N1) have been reported including 454 deaths, giving an overall case fatality rate of 53%. Cases have been reported from 16 countries. From 01 January 2018 to 09 April 2019, no futher cases have been reported. Looking at the fatality rate you have to wonder why we are arguing about whether it is 1% or 3% for the current outbreak. Remember bird flu was just as big a thing in the press a few years back as coronavirus is now. https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu would seem to be a reputable source. Average of 600 people die annually in the UK from flu complications however there have been two recent winters where it has been well over 10,000. The latest bad winter of 2013 - 2014 had 11,000 deaths and it has to be remembered that this is against a background of the most vulnerable being vaccinated. The estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths because of flu worldwide each year puts the current situation into some sort of perspective though in my opinion. I'm still not going to stay indoors, wear a mask or avoid people. If any good comes of this perhaps it will make all those minty buggers who leave the toilet without washing their hands change their ways! Absolutely! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 As we're constantly being told to wash our hands with an alcohol based hand sanitiser if we want to help avoid what is, for a person of average health, a bad cold, wouldn't it be useful to line our insides with alcohol as well? Willing to volunteer if any research into this is happening 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just read about the Premier League considering a ban on over 70's at matches - https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sports-bosses-and-broadcasters-summoned-to-discuss-contingency-plans-11951225 Couldn't possibly do the same in Speedway, tracks would be closing down within a month 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Marksman said: Just read about the Premier League considering a ban on over 70's at matches - https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sports-bosses-and-broadcasters-summoned-to-discuss-contingency-plans-11951225 Couldn't possibly do the same in Speedway, tracks would be closing down within a month Certainly eradicate the BB prob at Peterborough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 I wonder if he's changed his mind ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/51777154 I wonder if Rob Godfrey has been invited? Edited March 6, 2020 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 hours ago, iainb said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/51777154 I wonder if Rob Godfrey has been invited? This is contrary to comments made by the Chief medical expert when interviewed on all major News yesterday who said that large gatherings of up to 70,000 in a stadium was lesser risk than 20 people in a Church Hall or School or Doctors Surgery, due to the spread in only very close personal contact and in an indoor environment and that there would be no benefit to cancelling big event outdoor gatherings. The Daily Tripe (Mail) say that sporting event crowds will be limited to 500 - that should suit Mr Godfrey perfectly to keep Scunthorpe running but not many other Tracks. The crunch point may be Easter and if any closedown comes it won't be a perfect April Fool and no joke for riders (who wont earn any money), Promoters (who will have to sit and wait with very little income coming in) and supporters with nothing to watch. Can't see how speedway can work "behind closed doors" can anyone?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 Not sure how that works. If I am at the Docs I have one person sitting next to me on the right and one on the left. Ok I might pick up a magazine that many people have touched but apart from that no real contact. If I am at a concert or football game I have a group behind me, group in front of me, people next to me on both sides, plus all those squeezing past to go to the toilets or get food etc and queuing to get in and out But what I heard was as long as you weren’t in an area infected then a local concert or cinema visit etc wasn’t as dangerous as in international event.. But a trip to the supermarket or on the tube is just as innocuous or dangerous, depending on your outlook. The thing is, it is what is essential ? Doctors visits and jobs are, leisure to an extent not so, although obviously people work in the leisure industry as well. But we tried to book a table at a restaurant and it was full, so not everyone is panicking and staying at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, iris123 said: Not sure how that works. If I am at the Docs I have one person sitting next to me on the right and one on the left. Ok I might pick up a magazine that many people have touched but apart from that no real contact. If I am at a concert or football game I have a group behind me, group in front of me, people next to me on both sides, plus all those squeezing past to go to the toilets or get food etc and queuing to get in and out But what I heard was as long as you weren’t in an area infected then a local concert or cinema visit etc wasn’t as dangerous as in international event.. But a trip to the supermarket or on the tube is just as innocuous or dangerous, depending on your outlook. The thing is, it is what is essential ? Doctors visits and jobs are, leisure to an extent not so, although obviously people work in the leisure industry as well. But we tried to book a table at a restaurant and it was full, so not everyone is panicking and staying at home Blimey! You get to see a doctor? To make an appointment to see a doctor at my local surgery there are so many loops and hoops to negotiate I've given up trying. Edited March 7, 2020 by steve roberts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 The next of the ‘lethal’ viruses to hit the UK which everybody is worrying about. Thanks to the scare mongering media. No doubt we will still be having this discussion when the next ‘killer’ virus hits our shores in the next few years. Meanwhile the common flu will still kill more vulnerable people this year. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrub Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, stevebrum said: The next of the ‘lethal’ viruses to hit the UK which everybody is worrying about. Thanks to the scare mongering media. No doubt we will still be having this discussion when the next ‘killer’ virus hits our shores in the next few years. Meanwhile the common flu will still kill more vulnerable people this year. But this virus in the UK is now twice as lethal as Michael Barrymore's pool 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 I have no concerns over the virus, what does concern me is any potential over reactions to the virus affecting me going to Warsaw. Paid everything on non refundable rates.... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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