Triple.H. Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 10:43 PM, chunky said: Thing is, six riders in a race is not a huge problem for most riders - certainly not those who ride in the Czech Golden Helmet and certain other events on the continent. As you say, it only became an issue with the the World Pairs, and that's because riders were looking for their team-mates. THAT was the problem... Completely agree with the looking for your partner.issue But 6 rider races at Pardubice aren't a problem due to the size of the track. They could easily have 8 at the tapes and at a push 10. Though 8 and 10 would be loads of first bend bunching incidents. Be interesting to see how many current and former British tracks that would fit onto the centre green at Pardubice . Bet there's not many that would encroach on the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Triple.H. said: Completely agree with the looking for your partner.issue But 6 rider races at Pardubice aren't a problem due to the size of the track. They could easily have 8 at the tapes and at a push 10. Though 8 and 10 would be loads of first bend bunching incidents. Be interesting to see how many current and former British tracks that would fit onto the centre green at Pardubice . Bet there's not many that would encroach on the track I don't think the "size" of the track is as important as the width. As has been said, six riders are normal on the small American tracks, but a track like Hull (the Boulevard) was narrow even for four! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 10 hours ago, iainb said: Nss is one of the few tracks that I would pay to watch a streamed meeting from, maybe also Peterborough Which reminds me has anyone got a link to the Ben Barker vs The Fish duel at the 4s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, chunky said: I don't think the "size" of the track is as important as the width. As has been said, six riders are normal on the small American tracks, but a track like Hull (the Boulevard) was narrow even for four! You shouldve gone to Craven Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: You shouldve gone to Craven Park Yeah, never went there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, chunky said: Yeah, never went there... Very Very Narrow and once the sun set it made Swindon after sun set seem like the Caribbean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, Triple.H. said: Very Very Narrow and once the sun set it made Swindon after sun set seem like the Caribbean Trust me, I know what Hull is like climate-wise; I went there a few times (not for speedway) in either September or October! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, chunky said: Trust me, I know what Hull is like climate-wise; I went there a few times (not for speedway) in either September or October! Not filming Indoor League in the Hull Studios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Triple.H. said: Not filming Indoor League in the Hull Studios We went to Leeds for the Indoor League... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 Craven Park was square and narrow but WHAT A VIEW from that home straight stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, chunky said: I don't think the "size" of the track is as important as the width. As has been said, six riders are normal on the small American tracks, but a track like Hull (the Boulevard) was narrow even for four! You think Hull was bad? You should have seen Paisley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 16 hours ago, phillipsr said: Good luck with that at Wolves, Leicester and many others... just because something works once doesn't make it a good idea and this definitely isn't one He's suggesting all Premier matches be held at and streamed from Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Self-proclaimed track anorak here. While, I believe 1948 / 49 Hedon was similar to Sheffield, the Boulevard straights, according to the annuls of speedway foklore and seemingly which tape measure was used , were 24ft/ 7.3m or 25ft / 7.6m, with seriously wide bends, albeit with entries & exits a tad on the narrow side. The track was widended slightly on Ivan's arrival (and on his insistance) in the of winter 1977. Craven Park was a better shape overall the straights were, as confimed & measured by my good self (told you I'm a track anorak), 28ft / 8.5m with bends around twice that. Don't think it was ever particularly warm at Hull, apart from THAT summer in 1976, though 1995 wasn't too bad. Oh and the Belle Vue NSS is freaking brilliant. Boulevard 1971... Edited October 25, 2020 by martinmauger Pics, spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) (Text Editor issues whilst trying to load track pics) Paisley.... Edited October 25, 2020 by martinmauger Pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Craven Park circa 2002, admittedly not exactly over-wide but the pic elongates it somewhat as I flipped it from the near horizontal, like I said it was 8.5m on the straight, think the minimum SCB limit was 8m, 10m for FIM spec. Edited October 25, 2020 by martinmauger added info on width Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Original pic off Google Maps from turns 3 & 4, there is now a stand in the foreground.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 hours ago, SharpenRake said: He's suggesting all Premier matches be held at and streamed from Belle Vue. If you look at MikeBV post he mentioned 6 rider races BEFORE the suggestion to have all matches at NSS next year if meetings are a no go like this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, SharpenRake said: He's suggesting all Premier matches be held at and streamed from Belle Vue. Hmm now i wonder which team would benefit the most from this happening, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Hmm now i wonder which team would benefit the most from this happening, Well the Aces obviously but Mike’s post makes a lot of sense IF spectators aren’t allowed in next year and all monies come from streaming, Belle Vue is possibly the only track in the UK I would pay to stream a meeting from, certainly the only one in the Premiership. You are almost guaranteed good racing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Well the Aces obviously but Mike’s post makes a lot of sense IF spectators aren’t allowed in next year and all monies come from streaming, Belle Vue is possibly the only track in the UK I would pay to stream a meeting from, certainly the only one in the Premiership. You are almost guaranteed good racing. Weather conditions are the main cause of reduced quality racing. the track is without doubt a brilliant track to watch racing. We had a Colts meeting, I think versus Stoke from memory, where the rain did a lot of damage to the track and subsequent preparation. they went ahead and got the meeting on. A poor meeting due to the conditions but at least we saw a meeting and I’d not have a wasted journey. There is nothing worse than letting the fans in and later abandoning the meeting... it does a lot of damage re maintaining floating supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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