Odds On Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 great to see Jason Crump back in the saddle but the biggest question is why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Odds On said: great to see Jason Crump back in the saddle but the biggest question is why? Couple of reasons been discussed on the forum, he is over here for the summer anyway as his lad races road bikes and also he has said that he has ‘a scratch to itch’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Couple of reasons been discussed on the forum, he is over here for the summer anyway as his lad races road bikes I’ve seen a few saying this, but he’s just done an interview with Mike Bacon of the local paper, who asks if any family are coming with him. He goes on to say his son Seth has one more year at school, and his wife will come over a few times during the season. So maybe it’s purely a racing decision from his part? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, EnglishRoundabout said: There’s absolutely no doubt he will be getting folk through the turnstile at a rate of knots, especially the first few meetings at Foxhall. 500 or so non regulars minimum I would expect.. At every track too, until the novelty wears off.. If you can get 500 or so on the gate then that's around £10k with the programmes.. Three or four matches of those numbers and it would boost the season.. Presume if not all, a large part of his salary will be sponsored as he wont be cheap I would have thought..? Looking forward to the Peter Craven meeting now... Always a cracking meeting but now made a 'must go' event.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 I know Jason Crump retired many years ago but he is only 2 years older than dirty Nicki who is still regarded as a top rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I know Jason Crump retired many years ago but he is only 2 years older than dirty Nicki who is still regarded as a top rider. As I said on the Ipswich thread, Nicki had the 12th highest average in Poland last year. He is still one of the best in the world. The time off the bike will be what hurts Crump. But then nobody is expecting him to be the 12th best rider in the world this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Ben91 said: As I said on the Ipswich thread, Nicki had the 12th highest average in Poland last year. He is still one of the best in the world. The time off the bike will be what hurts Crump. But then nobody is expecting him to be the 12th best rider in the world this season. Amazes me how some people think that just because he is only 2 years older than NP, he will come in and do a similar job. Pedersen has been riding at the highest level all that time and keeping fit whilst Crump hasn’t. Pedersen was also challenging for the world title the season Crump retired as well. id be gobsmacked if there’s not at least 3 points difference in their averages this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 Well that is somewhat surprising reading that Seth still has a year in school. My understanding was that he was coming over this year. Makes Jason’s decision even more intriguing actually, he’s upping sticks again well away from family to race. He must certainly be keen for this and makes it purely a racing decision rather than a family one. Good luck to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Pinny said: Amazes me how some people think that just because he is only 2 years older than NP, he will come in and do a similar job. Pedersen has been riding at the highest level all that time and keeping fit whilst Crump hasn’t. Pedersen was also challenging for the world title the season Crump retired as well. id be gobsmacked if there’s not at least 3 points difference in their averages this season I think Jason will know within a few weeks whether he has it or not, ER the diehard Swindon supporter had it spot on young Crumpie will not except losing easily that is what made him a champion.My hunch is that he will average over seven mainly because the tracks now are quite technical apart from the NSS and Owlerton.His ability is top notch he has brilliant aquipment a superb attitude and is a complete professional.If he has a full season there is not a chance of him being three points lower than Nicki if anything Pedersen has it all to prove to he will not get it his own way all of the time.The approach Jason should take is not to put to much pressure on himself and enjoy his speedway i for one am looking forward to seeing an alltime top 10 great in action again even though it is a 44 year old version.His battles with Leigh Adams at the Abbey in the 2000s still stick in the mind superb two great legends of our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Pinny said: Amazes me how some people think that just because he is only 2 years older than NP, he will come in and do a similar job. Pedersen has been riding at the highest level all that time and keeping fit whilst Crump hasn’t. Pedersen was also challenging for the world title the season Crump retired as well. id be gobsmacked if there’s not at least 3 points difference in their averages this season Nicki and Jason Doyle should be the top two riders in the league this year without a doubt. Crump could come back and shock us all. I think (and hope) he will do well but if his average is similar to Nicki’s then he’s done incredibly well or Nicki has had a stinker of a year. Its similar to a boxer who has been out of the ring for years, your body changes and you forget what it’s like to be punched or slog it out for 12 rounds even if you can still do the business on the pads. Will be interesting to see how Crumpy fares after his first fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Pinny said: Amazes me how some people think that just because he is only 2 years older than NP, he will come in and do a similar job. Pedersen has been riding at the highest level all that time and keeping fit whilst Crump hasn’t. Pedersen was also challenging for the world title the season Crump retired as well. id be gobsmacked if there’s not at least 3 points difference in their averages this season You may well be gobsmacked then! He has had a long time out of the sport and I think he will struggle to start with but I think he still has a lot to offer and will surprise many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Ben91 said: Nicki and Jason Doyle should be the top two riders in the league this year without a doubt. Crump could come back and shock us all. I think (and hope) he will do well but if his average is similar to Nicki’s then he’s done incredibly well or Nicki has had a stinker of a year. Its similar to a boxer who has been out of the ring for years, your body changes and you forget what it’s like to be punched or slog it out for 12 rounds even if you can still do the business on the pads. Will be interesting to see how Crumpy fares after his first fall. I reckon Lambert will have a higher average than Pedersen at the end of the season. Doyle Lambert Iversen Pedersen Kurtz is my top 5 for end averages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, therefused said: I reckon Lambert will have a higher average than Pedersen at the end of the season. Doyle Lambert Iversen Pedersen Kurtz is my top 5 for end averages... I would have thought Iversen would be ahead of Lambert and I don't think Kurtz will be top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, therefused said: I reckon Lambert will have a higher average than Pedersen at the end of the season. Doyle Lambert Iversen Pedersen Kurtz is my top 5 for end averages... I think Batch well be in there. Edited February 21, 2020 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, therefused said: I reckon Lambert will have a higher average than Pedersen at the end of the season. Doyle Lambert Iversen Pedersen Kurtz is my top 5 for end averages... For the sake of British Speedway I hope you’re right but I doubt Lambert will average more than Nicki greatly. To put a little context on things here are the Polish averages (excluding bonus points) of the riders you listed for 2019. This is the best way to compare their 2019 form as they all rode in the Ekstraliga. Doyle 8.80 Lambert 4.28 Iversen 6.65 Pedersen 7.81 Kurtz 4.58 Pedersen has ambitions to get back into the Grand Prix series. If he is serious about those ambitions he will have to be as good, if not better than he was last year. I wouldn’t bet against him doing just that. A tangent from what the thread is about but this just goes to show how good Jason’s old sparring partner still is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 1:54 PM, Odds On said: great to see Jason Crump back in the saddle but the biggest question is why? Seth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, M.D said: Seth.. Did I read that Seth has one more year education back in Oz still tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, stevebrum said: Did I read that Seth has one more year education back in Oz still tho? Yes. Crumps decision is purely a racing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Arch Stanton said: Yes. Crumps decision is purely a racing one. Thoughts that what I read. So those still quoting Seth as the reason are wrong then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Thoughts that what I read. So those still quoting Seth as the reason are wrong then. Think I’ve read the word “Seth” more times on here since Crump signed than Crump himself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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