szkocjasid Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Do the flag Marshalls at Peterborough stand on the track as the riders take the chequered flag? If the club I serious about H&S this wouldn't be allowed! I've seen the Sheffield guy half way up the track at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Do the flag Marshalls at Peterborough stand on the track as the riders take the chequered flag? If the club I serious about H&S this wouldn't be allowed! I've seen the Sheffield guy half way up the track at times! We really do not know what it is all about. Messrs Pratt and Johnson originally said it had all come from EOES , which EOES denied ( I have E mails to prove both these things) .Bemused , bothered and bewildered as to real  reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Do the flag Marshalls at Peterborough stand on the track as the riders take the chequered flag? If the club I serious about H&S this wouldn't be allowed! I've seen the Sheffield guy half way up the track at times! If you read the BBC report (on a different thread) of the tradegy used in the club notice then the coroner is very critical of what happens within the confines of the track itself, albeit a different sport. It says that a report has been sent to Incarace and ORCi [Oval Racing Council International] and other organisations. Whether that includes speedway I don't know so those who go can see what effect that will have trackside, in the pits etc. We're still advertising a pit walk and centre green visit during the meeting so you'd assume that that would have to go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Wasn't gonna comment again on this thread but, oh well.   In my (limited) experience 'life-challenged’ people wish to be left to cope themselves as far as possible and will ask for help if they really need assistance .  They very much prefer to be left to 'get on with it' usually only requiring the odd minor, consideration like in this case being allowed to park as near as possible to the event and ideally not be required to cross uneven ground.  A further consideration is that for various reasons people need to arrive & leave venues at different times. e.g. in my own case depending on commitments I like to watch every lap of racing & practice, at other times I need to be out of there as the riders are on the slowdown lap after the last heat.  So while using ‘golf buggys’ or other such transport from the parking area to the entrance, is one possible solution I don’t think it is workable.  TBH I can’t be bothered with trawling through all the responses but I believe someone mentioned they know the Peterborough promotion to talk to, specifically Buster Chapman, I think he has commented that he is aware of supporters’ concerns so chatting with him about disabled parking issues at The East Of England Arena on speedway days hopefully a solution will be found.  In my, and my friend’s dad’s case (who has walking difficulties), if / when we a plan to visit a track we will telephone beforehand, and also confirm on the day of the meeting, whether we are able to park as near as possible to the entrance, using my friends dads Blue Badge.  While I cannot speak for others at this time, if we cannot be guaranteed close parking, then unfortunately we likely won’t go…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 hours ago, martinmauger said: Wasn't gonna comment again on this thread but, oh well.   In my (limited) experience 'life-challenged’ people wish to be left to cope themselves as far as possible and will ask for help if they really need assistance .  They very much prefer to be left to 'get on with it' usually only requiring the odd minor, consideration like in this case being allowed to park as near as possible to the event and ideally not be required to cross uneven ground.  A further consideration is that for various reasons people need to arrive & leave venues at different times. e.g. in my own case depending on commitments I like to watch every lap of racing & practice, at other times I need to be out of there as the riders are on the slowdown lap after the last heat.  So while using ‘golf buggys’ or other such transport from the parking area to the entrance, is one possible solution I don’t think it is workable.  TBH I can’t be bothered with trawling through all the responses but I believe someone mentioned they know the Peterborough promotion to talk to, specifically Buster Chapman, I think he has commented that he is aware of supporters’ concerns so chatting with him about disabled parking issues at The East Of England Arena on speedway days hopefully a solution will be found.  In my, and my friend’s dad’s case (who has walking difficulties), if / when we a plan to visit a track we will telephone beforehand, and also confirm on the day of the meeting, whether we are able to park as near as possible to the entrance, using my friends dads Blue Badge.  While I cannot speak for others at this time, if we cannot be guaranteed close parking, then unfortunately we likely won’t go….  It was worth the effort. I'm not sure that anyone at the club is listening, at least not in the public domain anyway, but behind the scenes may potentially be different I'm told. At least as it stands you'll not have to worry about planning a trip to Peterborough in 2020 and beyond because while they meet part of your criteria with possible parking close to an entrance, those entrances are nowhere near your intended destination so if you or a friend or relative has a disability then the new arrangements will make your mind up for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 It occured to me after posting that the car park at Scunny is landscaped pretty flat, it isn't tarmacced with permanent parking spaces painted but 'parking lanes' are marked with what looks like whitewash, similar to the stuff used on starting gates. There aren't any disabled spaces, as far as I've (not) noticed, but everyone seems to park where they should and I personally haven't experinced being blocked in. They have a 'gateman', sometimes it's a 'gate woman', to take you parking fee and stadium staff / marshalls are available if anyone requires help..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytiger Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 I do believe you would be risking loosing your friends blue badge if the named person wasn't in the car. There is a photo shot of the named person also on the B.Badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 12 hours ago, martinmauger said: Wasn't gonna comment again on this thread but, oh well.   In my (limited) experience 'life-challenged’ people wish to be left to cope themselves as far as possible and will ask for help if they really need assistance .  They very much prefer to be left to 'get on with it' usually only requiring the odd minor, consideration like in this case being allowed to park as near as possible to the event and ideally not be required to cross uneven ground.  A further consideration is that for various reasons people need to arrive & leave venues at different times. e.g. in my own case depending on commitments I like to watch every lap of racing & practice, at other times I need to be out of there as the riders are on the slowdown lap after the last heat.  So while using ‘golf buggys’ or other such transport from the parking area to the entrance, is one possible solution I don’t think it is workable.  TBH I can’t be bothered with trawling through all the responses but I believe someone mentioned they know the Peterborough promotion to talk to, specifically Buster Chapman, I think he has commented that he is aware of supporters’ concerns so chatting with him about disabled parking issues at The East Of England Arena on speedway days hopefully a solution will be found.  In my, and my friend’s dad’s case (who has walking difficulties), if / when we a plan to visit a track we will telephone beforehand, and also confirm on the day of the meeting, whether we are able to park as near as possible to the entrance, using my friends dads Blue Badge.  While I cannot speak for others at this time, if we cannot be guaranteed close parking, then unfortunately we likely won’t go….   5 minutes ago, greytiger said: I do believe you would be risking loosing your friends blue badge if the named person wasn't in the car. There is a photo shot of the named person also on the B.Badge. The Blue Badge Holder would be in the car in this case - see my bold above. The rules regarding use of a badge include the following: The badge is for your use and benefit only. It must only be displayed if you are travelling in the vehicle as a driver or passenger, or if someone is collecting you or dropping you off and needs to park at the place where you are being collected or dropped. Don’t allow other people to use the badge to do something on your behalf, such as shopping or collecting something for you. You must never give the badge to friends or family to allow them to park for free, even if they are visiting you. You should not use the badge to allow non-disabled people to take advantage of the benefits while you sit in the car. It’s a criminal offence to misuse a badge. This includes people other than the badge holder taking advantage of the parking concessions provided under the scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytiger Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:  The Blue Badge Holder would be in the car in this case - see my bold above. The rules regarding use of a badge include the following: The badge is for your use and benefit only. It must only be displayed if you are travelling in the vehicle as a driver or passenger, or if someone is collecting you or dropping you off and needs to park at the place where you are being collected or dropped. Don’t allow other people to use the badge to do something on your behalf, such as shopping or collecting something for you. You must never give the badge to friends or family to allow them to park for free, even if they are visiting you. You should not use the badge to allow non-disabled people to take advantage of the benefits while you sit in the car. It’s a criminal offence to misuse a badge. This includes people other than the badge holder taking advantage of the parking concessions provided under the scheme. For once I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) On 2/14/2020 at 2:05 PM, greytiger said: I do believe you would be risking loosing your friends blue badge if the named person wasn't in the car. There is a photo shot of the named person also on the B.Badge. Yeah, wasn't overly clear but he would certainly be in the car with us if his Blue Badge was used, pretty sure it does contain his name & photo and he carries it with him at all times for parking use.... Edited February 16, 2020 by martinmauger belated spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Peterborough Panthers Speedway@PboroPanthers - THERE’S no day like raceday. Where is your favourite place to watch the racing from at the East of England Arena? I suspect that they've greatly increased the not at all or the from home when and if they're on the television count. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 178 have signed the petition to date ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blupanther said: 178 have signed the petition to date ... Has moved on somewhat from the resident (or ex resident) nutters post, with some no doubt yet to find out how the club values them, their support and their financial contribution: On 2/2/2020 at 8:26 PM, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said: As for his BB petition I find it hilarious. The petition has no momentum whatsoever and it's completely flopped so far. 42 signatures after two days is laughable. Edited February 17, 2020 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Blupanther said: 178 have signed the petition to date ... Someone posted this thread url on https://www.facebook.com/peterboroughspeedway/Â but I'm told that the post went AWOL so if anyone else wants to try as an experiment. Edited February 17, 2020 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Crump99 said: Someone posted this thread url on https://www.facebook.com/peterboroughspeedway/ but I'm told that the post went AWOL so if anyone else wants to try as an experiment. I really am at a loss if this true. Clearly the dynamic duo have no regard for those that think differently to themselves. There is I fear a lot more to this than we are being told ( what a surprise) .  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I really am at a loss if this true. Clearly the dynamic duo have no regard for those that think differently to themselves. There is I fear a lot more to this than we are being told ( what a surprise) .  I've just asked a straight up question on there.. surely they won't delete that will they 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I really am at a loss if this true. Clearly the dynamic duo have no regard for those that think differently to themselves. There is I fear a lot more to this than we are being told ( what a surprise) .  Perhaps, but perhaps not. I'm not sure that there's anything more to it than it being a poor decision that they don't wish to communicate more widely or open up to further examination. I mean, it's a straightforward reasonable adjustment for the club's disabled fans that successive promotions have easily administered over many years. What else is there unseen to justify removing the facility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 10 hours ago, The Doctor... said: I've just asked a straight up question on there.. surely they won't delete that will they Did you get an answer to both questions that you raised here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 As Carl Johnson now has a ‘wider role in Club affairs’ perhaps resolving the disabled parking problem will be on his ‘to do’ list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, NeilWatson said: As Carl Johnson now has a ‘wider role in Club affairs’ perhaps resolving the disabled parking problem will be on his ‘to do’ list. I think it is on his" already done list" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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