proud panther Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I have spoken to Radio Cambridge today and have explained, how the original announcement was hidden within season ticket application info, how originally we were told it came from the showground, how this was denied by showground and Management now gone into siege mode. Radio have gone through this forum and are aware of the many sad cases. They are trying to contact Carl Johnson to get a satisfactory explanation as they have not provided one so far.. I have told them I do not mind being on Radio but will not do so alone as I am aware that many have declined.for their own reasons. You have got the perfect face for the radio lol. Edited March 3, 2020 by proud panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I have spoken to Radio Cambridge today and have explained, how the original announcement was hidden within season ticket application info, how originally we were told it came from the showground, how this was denied by showground and Management now gone into siege mode. Radio have gone through this forum and are aware of the many sad cases. They are trying to contact Carl Johnson to get a satisfactory explanation as they have not provided one so far.. I have told them I do not mind being on Radio but will not do so alone as I am aware that many have declined.for their own reasons. keep up the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 5 hours ago, proud panther said: keep up the fight. It needs more than me unfortunately. Anybody who is willing to speak to Radio Cambridge please PM me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, wealdstone said: I have spoken to Radio Cambridge today and have explained, how the original announcement was hidden within season ticket application info, how originally we were told it came from the showground, how this was denied by showground and Management now gone into siege mode. Radio have gone through this forum and are aware of the many sad cases. They are trying to contact Carl Johnson to get a satisfactory explanation as they have not provided one so far.. I have told them I do not mind being on Radio but will not do so alone as I am aware that many have declined.for their own reasons. Well done Was it hidden within season ticket application info? It is there now but from memory (& I'm happy to be corrected) there was no 2020 admission details page when the season ticket application first came out or any mention of the parking concession removal on the season ticket application form which is where the link went direct to first off. In fact, even now, there is still no reason to click the "Disabled Parking (Inside the Showground) link because the facility hasn't changed for at least 15 years so why would it now? Usually it creates a stink if the EoES removes the concession and disabled fans wouldn't expect their club to do it. If someone with a BB drove in during 2019 and bought an early season ticket expecting the same in 2020 then they'll be in for a shock. I can't even remember how I stumbled across the BB concession removal. Just by chance when surfing the club site I think. Edited March 3, 2020 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Well done Was it hidden within season ticket application info? It is there now but from memory (& I'm happy to be corrected) there was no 2020 admission details page when the season ticket applications first came out or any mention of the parking concession removal on the season ticket application form which is where the link went direct to first off. In fact, even now, there is still no reason to click the "Disabled Parking (Inside the Showground) link because the facility hasn't changed for at least 15 years so why would it now? Usually it creates a stink if the EoES removes the concession and disabled fans wouldn't expect their club to do it. If someone with a BB drove in during 2019 and bought an early season ticket expecting the same in 2020 then they'll be in for a shock. I can't even remember how I stumbled across the BB concession removal. Just by chance when surfing the club site I think. Probably"hidden in season ticket application" was wrong terminology. What you say is correct which makes it worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 7 hours ago, wealdstone said: I have spoken to Radio Cambridge today and have explained, how the original announcement was hidden within season ticket application info, how originally we were told it came from the showground, how this was denied by showground and Management now gone into siege mode. Radio have gone through this forum and are aware of the many sad cases. They are trying to contact Carl Johnson to get a satisfactory explanation as they have not provided one so far.. I have told them I do not mind being on Radio but will not do so alone as I am aware that many have declined.for their own reasons. This problem affects more than just the disabled fans. Our main driver for the last few seasons has suffered from cancer, & has relied on the disabled parking to be able to attend meetings. He is now unsure if he will be able to walk from the car park, & we will struggle to get to some meetings if he can't, as we don't always have alternative vehicles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 8 hours ago, proud panther said: This problem affects more than just the disabled fans. Our main driver for the last few seasons has suffered from cancer, & has relied on the disabled parking to be able to attend meetings. He is now unsure if he will be able to walk from the car park, & we will struggle to get to some meetings if he can't, as we don't always have alternative vehicles. As Wealdstone knows, Radio Cambridgshire contacted me to, as my wife and I can no longer go to Peterborough Speedway for the same sad reasons as your driver. For personal reasons, I was one of the people that had to decline the interview with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mimmo said: As Wealdstone knows, Radio Cambridgshire contacted me to, as my wife and I can no longer go to Peterborough Speedway for the same sad reasons as your driver. For personal reasons, I was one of the people that had to decline the interview with them. I do and fully understand your reasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 3:16 PM, wealdstone said: I have spoken to Radio Cambridge today and have explained, how the original announcement was hidden within season ticket application info, how originally we were told it came from the showground, how this was denied by showground and Management now gone into siege mode. Radio have gone through this forum and are aware of the many sad cases. They are trying to contact Carl Johnson to get a satisfactory explanation as they have not provided one so far.. I have told them I do not mind being on Radio but will not do so alone as I am aware that many have declined.for their own reasons. I heard a rumour that they should get in touch with the other bloke if he exists, who, because of his age should really be a bit more empathetic to those being displaced by an unworthy decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) On 3/3/2020 at 9:58 PM, wealdstone said: It needs more than me unfortunately. Anybody who is willing to speak to Radio Cambridge please PM me. They have been in touch with me and I confirmed that I am willing to speak with them. Waiting for them to get back to me. Literally as I typed this they have got back to me! Edited March 6, 2020 by waytogo28 additional point made 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: They have been in touch with me and I confirmed that I am willing to speak with them. Waiting for them to get back to me. Literally as I typed this they have got back to me! Good to hear, we need more though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 I have never been able to understand and it has never been explained to my satisfaction exactly what the problem is. For most of the Speedway events BB holders enter and exit from a totally different gate to the rest and if they keep to the designated area ( which 99% do) the only interference or possible threat to others is as I have said before people leaving by the wrong gate which means pedestrians of which there must be few or those( presumably to avoid paying a £1), parking away from official car park. Therefore it could be argued that BB holders are suffering for actions of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, wealdstone said: I have never been able to understand and it has never been explained to my satisfaction exactly what the problem is. For most of the Speedway events BB holders enter and exit from a totally different gate to the rest and if they keep to the designated area ( which 99% do) the only interference or possible threat to others is as I have said before people leaving by the wrong gate which means pedestrians of which there must be few or those( presumably to avoid paying a £1), parking away from official car park. Therefore it could be argued that BB holders are suffering for actions of others. Well as Mr Watson cited the club press release as decisive following his discussion with someone, let's look at the explanation: "Due to the death of a close colleague at a race venue towards the end of last year" - a real tradegy that I don't wish to comment on in this situation - "Peterborough Speedway runs alongside a number of events at the Showground every season, and when these events clash we have to move our disabled parking facility to a different location within the Showground on these occasions." - Jeez, it has done for years and everyone else has coped and organised without seemingly too much difficulty. How often does it actually happen? If a couple of times a season disabled parking can't be accommodated inside then so be it. If customers are told then they could choose whether or not to attend. - "We had a number of blue badge holders not using the allocated parking areas correctly" - was anyone aware that that was a problem? Was it communicated to customers in any way whatsoever? Not that I'm aware. - "A number of our volunteer car parking staff have been verbally abused" - that's unacceptable and there should be zero tolerance, but as above, was anyone aware of that being communicated as a problem? "We respect the fact that the above hasn’t been caused by everyone issued with a blue badge, and we do also know and understand this decision affects everyone that will attend our race meetings that are issued with a blue badge. (Just to agree with your last sentence Wealdstone) We have over the years made preservations for internal disabled parking but unfortunately we cannot carry this on, and we will use the official disabled parking that is used at all Showground events. Sorry for the inconvenience but we hope everyone understands the situation." I tend to agree that those problems as laid out are not enough IMHO to jump from a to z without publically trying a less damaging solution in the middle as a first attempt at dealing with those issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 6:40 PM, Mimmo said: I wonder how many Blue Badge holders will stay away when push comes to shove. There's two here which would amount to a loss of £640 over the season, if we we able to be regulars. If only five cars with two people in stopped going, and were all Senior Citizens, that would equate to £6,400 and so it goes. It's a heck of a lot of money to be risking throwing away. I heard of another yesterday (which equates to a paying couple) and know of another who's going to pick and choose, if they choose to attend at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Having read through most of this thread I feel that Peterborough having put together a more competitive team team this year are trying to shoot themselves through the foot. I myself, although neither currently disabled or a BB holder i have recently suffered ill health and walking is not as easy as it used to be. I have regularly been a visitor when the Witches come to town but now feel that with the managements lack of consideration for those less fortunate health wise that I won't bother this year! It's not just BB holders that may not attend, there may well be others as well. Let's hope a few more may be tempted along if the team is doing well to counteract the shortfall. No real speedway fan wants to see any team go out of business due to bad financial decisions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Super Blue said: Having read through most of this thread I feel that Peterborough having put together a more competitive team team this year are trying to shoot themselves through the foot. I myself, although neither currently disabled or a BB holder i have recently suffered ill health and walking is not as easy as it used to be. I have regularly been a visitor when the Witches come to town but now feel that with the managements lack of consideration for those less fortunate health wise that I won't bother this year! It's not just BB holders that may not attend, there may well be others as well. Let's hope a few more may be tempted along if the team is doing well to counteract the shortfall. No real speedway fan wants to see any team go out of business due to bad financial decisions! They have already shot themselves in the foot, made EOES a no go area for a number of BB holders. Another case of "we are management and can do what we want and do not need to explain ourselves to the hoi polloi " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startline sid Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:16 AM, wealdstone said: I have never been able to understand and it has never been explained to my satisfaction exactly what the problem is. For most of the Speedway events BB holders enter and exit from a totally different gate to the rest and if they keep to the designated area ( which 99% do) the only interference or possible threat to others is as I have said before people leaving by the wrong gate which means pedestrians of which there must be few or those( presumably to avoid paying a £1), parking away from official car park. Therefore it could be argued that BB holders are suffering for actions of others. B B badge holders do pay £1 parking charge along with their admission fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, startline sid said: B B badge holders do pay £1 parking charge along with their admission fees I know they do, not sure the point you are trying to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startline sid Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 8 hours ago, wealdstone said: I know they do, not sure the point you are trying to make Sorry misread your post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:16 AM, wealdstone said: I have never been able to understand and it has never been explained to my satisfaction exactly what the problem is. For most of the Speedway events BB holders enter and exit from a totally different gate to the rest and if they keep to the designated area ( which 99% do) the only interference or possible threat to others is as I have said before people leaving by the wrong gate which means pedestrians of which there must be few or those( presumably to avoid paying a £1), parking away from official car park. Therefore it could be argued that BB holders are suffering for actions of others. Don't think that there is any "therefore" about it. They have already admitted as such: "We respect the fact that the above (ie: not using the allocated parking areas; a number of our volunteer car parking staff have been verbally abused) hasn’t been caused by everyone issued with a blue badge, and we do also know and understand this decision affects everyone that will attend our race meetings that are issued with a blue badge." So those who have always parked where told and have never abused staff are indeed paying for the actions of others, that being both customers and bad decision makers who clearly do not respect and understand! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.