Peterborough Speedway Disabled Parking 2020

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

6 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

I stuck up for Buster last season when I thought he was getting blamed for everything. But I can't see how you can back him on the BB problem he seems to have created...

And I'm following suite right now. 

The BB problem isn't ideal I'll give you that. But 300 metres shouldn't stop people from going. It's 5 minutes. This is why I'm reacting. If it was 30 minutes to an hour then my opinion would be the complete opposite but 5 minutes results in a petition or it stops people from attending going forward is just silly in my opinion and a petition is uncalled for.

I will back Buster because if it wasn't for him the Premiership wouldn't exist. Peterborough Speedway would have been liquidated. The man saved our club and saved the league and he gets nothing but abuse for every single thing that goes on whether it's track conditions, 1-7's, results, other subjects.

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Time for you to go

Time for you to accept reality. 42 signatures after 50 hours on a petition about walking 5 minutes is uncalled for.

[Crump99]

13 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

If the BB parking was causing a genuine concern, why not pay a man  with a few cones a tenner an hour to make sure only BB holders parked in the parking provided and no one could take the pee. Simple at £30 for 3 hours per meeting.. Cheap as chips, wouldn't you agree Oh great one?

Have you tried pushing someone in a wheelchair on wet boggy grass and uneven ground? It's not easy for a younger person, not very comfy either and most pushers are probably the spouse who might well be up in years themselves.

If BB parking was causing a genuine concern then why not communicate via PA, websites, programme etc first regarding the issues and explain the consequences of ignoring such advice. Between identified problem and draconian solution there is a middle bit of the process that we've totally ignored. Also, were these abusers all BB holders? I suspect not. Why were cars allowed to go left anyway, if that's where the problem was, and not told to go right to the Arena car park as was the known instruction. If cars were incorrectly parked then give out their number and tell them to shift it. Doesn't seem to be a problem to communicate when someone leaves their window open! That doesn't even cost £30.

Although most people associate disability with wheelchair it's actually defined in much broader terms these days. Especially, in this instance, ambulant disabled who don't use a wheelchair and can walk but the distance they are comfortable with and the problems associated with that are very much specific to the individual's disability.

That's not a go at you but your post was useful background to use

Edited February 3, 2020 by Crump99

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

You said that you don't know Neil Watson, but say if he knew the truth, then he would know your name How does that work ?? You have made some pretty bad accusations, Why not put your name out there, like Neil has... ??

Do you know Buster?  I think not. So you have Neil saying the team was in budget, and you have Buster saying it was not.

But this thread is about the BB parking situation and getting back to that, it is proven that Neil did what he could to help them and more.

If the BB parking was causing a genuine concern, why not pay a man  with a few cones a tenner an hour to make sure only BB holders parked in the parking provided and no one could take the pee. Simple at £30 for 3 hours per meeting.. Cheap as chips, wouldn't you agree Oh great one?

Have you tried pushing someone in a wheelchair on wet boggy grass and uneven ground? It's not easy for a younger person, not very comfy either and most pushers are probably the spouse who might well be up in years themselves.

You don't have a pair of purple chinos in ya wardrobe by any chance 

 

 

Great idea because Speedway is full of money isn't it? It's not like Buster's spent enough already another £30 a night for 15+ home meetings just to please a few people isn't going to hurt 

[Bald Bloke]

5 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

If BB was causing a genuine concern then why not communicate via PA, websites, programme etc first regarding the issues and explain the consequences of ignoring such advice. Between identified problem and draconian solution there is a middle pit of the process that we've totally ignored. Also, were these abusers all BB holders? I suspect not. Why were cars allowed to go left anyway, if that's where the problem was, and not told to go right to the Arena car park as was the known instruction. If cars were incorrectly parked then give out their number and tell them to shift it. Doesn't seem to be a problem to communicate when someone leaves their window open! That doesn't even cost £30.

Although most people associate disability with wheelchair it's actually defined in much broader terms these days. Especially, in this instance, ambulant disabled who don't use a wheelchair and can walk but the distance they are comfortable with and the problems associated with that are very much specific to the individual's disability.

That's not a go at you but your post was useful background to use

I know what your are saying, but they didn't for one reason or another. So the best thing to do with the season looming would be to  get a man and his cones so that no one turns up and is unable to get in 

[Chris116]

2 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

And I'm following suite right now. 

The BB problem isn't ideal I'll give you that. But 300 metres shouldn't stop people from going. It's 5 minutes. This is why I'm reacting. If it was 30 minutes to an hour then my opinion would be the complete opposite but 5 minutes results in a petition or it stops people from attending going forward is just silly in my opinion and a petition is uncalled for.

I will back Buster because if it wasn't for him the Premiership wouldn't exist. Peterborough Speedway would have been liquidated. The man saved our club and saved the league and he gets nothing but abuse for every single thing that goes on whether it's track conditions, 1-7's, results, other subjects.

For his last two years my father needed a wheelchair and I was happy to take him anywhere he wanted to go. His last visit to Wimbledon stadium was for the Best in Britain meeting that used to take place on New Years Day. We used the bus to the stadium and then had to get from Plough Lane to the entrance which was on the far side of the stadium, probably somewhere around 300 to 400 metres on rough tarmac. At that time I was a fit 55 year old and it was hard work getting the wheelchair that distance. I have walked from the two gates at Peterborough to the main stand and the ground would be far worse for pushing a wheelchair than the tarmac at Wimbledon. 

I suggest you try pushing a 13 stone person for 300 metres over such ground before you say that it would be possible in 5 minutes with a wheelchair. You would be stuck in the ruts for three times that long and unless very fit you would take nearer to half an hour. 

I don't want to have a go at any promoter as without them we have no racing to watch. In the same way I don't have a go about riders who don't try, I don't think any rider doesn't try, they may have a meeting where things are not working the way they want and that may continue for some meetings but I am sure they are trying as that is how they earn their money and it they were not trying then their family would be on their backs straight away, it does not need us to make things worse.

[Crump99]

11 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

And I'm following suite right now. 

The BB problem isn't ideal I'll give you that. But 300 metres shouldn't stop people from going. It's 5 minutes. This is why I'm reacting. If it was 30 minutes to an hour then my opinion would be the complete opposite but 5 minutes results in a petition or it stops people from attending going forward is just silly in my opinion and a petition is uncalled for.

I will back Buster because if it wasn't for him the Premiership wouldn't exist. Peterborough Speedway would have been liquidated. The man saved our club and saved the league and he gets nothing but abuse for every single thing that goes on whether it's track conditions, 1-7's, results, other subjects.

I called you ignorant the other day and that's another gem that shows that you should be nowhere near this discussion:

Mark Twain: It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.

 

[Bald Bloke]

5 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

Great idea because Speedway is full of money isn't it? It's not like Buster's spent enough already another £30 a night for 15+ home meetings just to please a few people isn't going to hurt 

I thought I put you on ignore, but i'm not to clever with computers, so I will answer you. 

You don't think buster will loose no more than  2 people a meeting if he sticks with his idea you fuc*wit

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

Just now, Crump99 said:

I called you ignorant the other day and that's another gem that shows that you should be nowhere near this discussion:

Mark Twain: It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.

 

Who the hell is Mark Twain. Clutching at straws now aren't you. That tells me you cant think of anything sensible to say in reply to topic related post and that's because there is anything to say as I was speaking the truth.

Mark Twain lol. Oh well if that's suppose to be my name then I'll go along with it and play along. 

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

7 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

I thought I put you on ignore, but i'm not to clever with computers, so I will answer you. 

You don't think buster will loose no more than  2 people a meeting if he sticks with his idea you fuc*wit

Another one who cant think of a topic related reply. I'm not going to attack you in reply. I don't need to because I have given a constructive post on the topic.

Buster must be quacking in his boots 43 signatures and counting. I bet half of those are from people who support Championship clubs and the BB parking has no baring on them.

EDIT: That's what they all say. If I had a pound for everytime I read those words I could pay someone £30 a meeting out of other peoples pockets to manage the BB parking situation lol.

Edited February 2, 2020 by TheMessiahOfTheBSF

[Hodgy]

44 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

I told you that the other day. I always have two. Now I only have one. My other account was Trollslayer which is no more after the mods removed the account.

I never had more than two accounts what I do is change my username on those accounts frequently just to change it up from time to time. if you click onto my account and see display name history you will see I change my name on that account frequently. That's all. Some paranoid people on here think every new account is mine and that I set up multiple accounts at the same time (They're wrong) I don't have 20+ accounts which they assume. I had two now one and like I said I change my display name frequently on those accounts just to change it up.

You didn’t remove, the mods did, as you admit.  So answer the question. Why the need ? Be yourself.  You can’t blame for peeps thinking you are the multi alias with the boloxio you post. 

[The Doctor...]

15 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

Great idea because Speedway is full of money isn't it? It's not like Buster's spent enough already another £30 a night for 15+ home meetings just to please a few people isn't going to hurt 

Did you not say in response to me the other night that bb holders should be forking out hundreds of pounds for mobility scooters tho - why does Buster get it easy when it comes to finances ?

I've been away for the weekend so you may have addressed this already in your unwavering support for him, but do you think that the citing of an on-track death in Colin North as validation for this change?  Or the fact that maybe they seemed to have punished lots of folk because of some very non specific incidences in that statement ?

You say above he shouldnt make changes to please " a few people " yet he has used the actions of "a number " (how many is that anyway)as justification for all this ?  Just curious how you fall down on this as you're clearly very supportive.

 

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

Just now, Hodgy said:

You didn’t remove, the mods did, as you admit.  So answer the question. Why the need ? Be yourself.  You can’t blame for peeps thinking you are the multi alias with the boloxio you post. 

Told you the other day. Back up in case of need. I don't blame people. They are free to say whatever they want. I wont hold it against them. 

[Bald Bloke]

9 minutes ago, The Doctor... said:

Did you not say in response to me the other night that bb holders should be forking out hundreds of pounds for mobility scooters tho - why does Buster get it easy when it comes to finances ?

I've been away for the weekend so you may have addressed this already in your unwavering support for him, but do you think that the citing of an on-track death in Colin North as validation for this change?  Or the fact that maybe they seemed to have punished lots of folk because of some very non specific incidences in that statement ?

You say above he shouldnt make changes to please " a few people " yet he has used the actions of "a number " (how many is that anyway)as justification for all this ?  Just curious how you fall down on this as you're clearly very supportive.

 

He thinks paying someone £30 a meeting to control the BB parking will loose Buster money 

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

Just now, The Doctor... said:

Did you not say in response to me the other night that bb holders should be forking out hundreds of pounds for mobility scooters tho - why does Buster get it easy when it comes to finances ?

I've been away for the weekend so you may have addressed this already in your unwavering support for him, but do you think that the citing of an on-track death in Colin North as validation for this change?  Or the fact that maybe they seemed to have punished lots of folk because of some very non specific incidences in that statement ?

You say above he shouldnt make changes to please " a few people " yet he has used the actions of "a number " (how many is that anyway)as justification for all this ?  Just curious how you fall down on this as you're clearly very supportive.

 

Yes I did say that but that is because It will come in use for day to day life rather than one Speedway meeting now and then.

Buster gets a pass because of the situation he cant go to extra expense just to please a few when he's already gone out of his way and spent thousands on saving the club and the premiership altogether. Funds are very tight for all clubs and everyone has to work within a budget. He's not in a position to people please no promoter or club is. He's in a position where he has to fight to keep the club and premiership running. If it means a weak 1-7 then so be it. I would rather have a weak 1-7 then have no club at all for example.

I don't know what Buster's thoughts are so I cant comment on that but I will stick by Busters decision making as he personally spent his hard earned money in order to keep the club alive when he really didn't have to as he already had enough on his plate. Along the way we will have good times and bad times. Ups and downs. Some decisions will be popular some wont but I cant turn my back or crucify the man who saved the club. It's just wrong.

BB Parking is not a popular decision but it's the decision that's been made by the saviour of the club now it might not be a popular one with a certain group but it's the decision that's been made by the owner and no petition will change it.

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

7 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

He thinks paying someone £30 a meeting to control the BB parking will loose Buster money 

It will. 

If you stopped being ignorant and woke up for a change you would notice Peterborough amongst many other clubs run at a financial loss per season.

So you tell me why Buster should pay out even more money just to people please a select group when the club and Buster is already out of pocket running at a financial loss?

Stop being ignorant and realise the times. Money doesn't grow on tree's. Buster cant pay out 24/7 as it's a struggle for any club to break even as it is.

[The Doctor...]

2 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

It will. 

If you stopped being ignorant and woke up for a change you would notice Peterborough amongst many other clubs run at a financial loss per season.

So you tell me why Buster should pay out even more money just to people please a select group when the club and Buster is already out of pocket running at a financial loss?

Stop being ignorant and realise the times. Money doesn't grow on tree's. Buster cant pay out 24/7 as it's a struggle for any club to break even as it is.

If the example provided in a £30 parking steward would lose money, i presume you're thinking that only a handful of bb holders won't turn up anymore is that right ? ie, less than the outlay for the steward ?

 

[Bald Bloke]

2 minutes ago, The Doctor... said:

If the example provided in a £30 parking steward would lose money, i presume you're thinking that only a handful of bb holders won't turn up anymore is that right ? ie, less than the outlay for the steward ?

 

That's only 2 

[TheMessiahOfTheBSF]

1 minute ago, The Doctor... said:

If the example provided in a £30 parking steward would lose money, i presume you're thinking that only a handful of bb holders won't turn up anymore is that right ? ie, less than the outlay for the steward ?

 

They'll turn up. Just throwing a hissy fit but they will still go. They're angry whilst saying they wont go but they will. They will adapt and accept the change made in due time. Just like the remain voters will adapt and accept we've left the EU.

[Crump99]

16 minutes ago, TheMessiahOfTheBSF said:

Who the hell is Mark Twain. Clutching at straws now aren't you. That tells me you cant think of anything sensible to say in reply to topic related post and that's because there is anything to say as I was speaking the truth.

Mark Twain lol. Oh well if that's suppose to be my name then I'll go along with it and play along. 

You really are a 'div' aren't you? But that would clarify the job that you claim to have. Who's Mark Twain? Jeez, ever heard of Google?

Your understanding of disabilty is laughable. I said that the petition wasn't the best idea that Neil's ever had, but on reflection, it created a thread that the club shouldn't be proud of in it's 50th year and kept the topic going and ruffled some feathers so fair play to him. I don't know and don't care whether he has an agenda or not, has always be ok with me so I have no problem with him, apart from defending Horton's "please be upstanding for the National anthem".

The only relevant bit in Chapman taking over the club is that this uneccesary discussion is taking place. Anything else on that subject deflects from the topic.

Anyway, must go because it's work in the morning. You better do likewise because those cardboard dividers won't put themselves into those boxes will they?