NeilWatson Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) I have split this topic from the Peterborough 2020 thread. I have created a petition on change.org https://www.change.org/PeterboroughSpeedwayDisabledParking2020 and urge as many of you as possible to sign the petition if you support its content and aims. it is a respectful, constructive petition, and makes no threats or demands, simply urging the Promotion to look at the situation again from the perspective of a Blue-Badge holder. Thanks for reading Edited January 31, 2020 by NeilWatson 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollslayer Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 54 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: I have split this topic from the Peterborough 2020 thread. I have created a petition on change.org https://www.change.org/PeterboroughSpeedwayDisabledParking2020 and urge as many of you as possible to sign the petition if you support its content and aims. it is a respectful, constructive petition, and makes no threats or demands, simply urging the Promotion to look at the situation again from the perspective of a Blue-Badge holder. Thanks for reading Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Great idea Neil. Hopefully it will help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 The change.org site is much clunkier than I imagined, please post on this thread too if you support the petition as I don’t think a number of ‘votes’ have registered. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Signed but not got the email from them yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, NeilWatson said: I have split this topic from the Peterborough 2020 thread. I have created a petition on change.org https://www.change.org/PeterboroughSpeedwayDisabledParking2020 and urge as many of you as possible to sign the petition if you support its content and aims. it is a respectful, constructive petition, and makes no threats or demands, simply urging the Promotion to look at the situation again from the perspective of a Blue-Badge holder. Thanks for reading Not the best idea you've had Neil. That will get few signatures and they'll use it as ammo to say that they know of few dissenters to the club and their management shamefully removing the reasonable adjustments Peterborough Speedway has offered to its disabled fans over at least two decades or so. The club have kicked off in support of it's disabled fans in the past when the landlords have taken this action but the EoES have clearly washed their hands of this and the club definitely own this mess. If they were going to look at it again then they wouldn't have issued an official statement that made the situation worse. The idea of reasonable adjustments is that they level the playing field for the disabled. Without a very very good reason, if at all, you don't remove these adjustments to make a disabled person's life more difficult. If any organisation of worth looked at the club's reasoning I'd guess they'd say that it was weak to say the least and what did they do to address these access route and verbal abuse issues? Not having seen any action myself I guess that we'd struggle to answer the question. As boring as it may be for people wanting speedway news I guess I'm saying don't deflect from this thread as well. This needs to be kept high on the agenda and they need a plan c. I know that's not your intention but that's what another thread does. Edited January 31, 2020 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Not the best idea you've had Neil. That will get few signatures and they'll use it as ammo to say that they know of few dissenters to the club and their management shamefully removing the reasonable adjustments Peterborough Speedway has offered to its disabled fans over at least two decades or so. The club have kicked off in support of it's disabled fans in the past when the landlords have taken this action but the EoES have clearly washed their hands of this and the club definitely own this mess. If they were going to look at it again then they wouldn't have issued an official statement that made the situation worse. The idea of reasonable adjustments is that they level the playing field for the disabled. Without a very very good reason, if at all, you don't remove these adjustments to make a disabled person's life more difficult. If any organisation of worth looked at the club's reasoning I'd guess they'd say that it was weak to say the least and what did they do to address these access route and verbal abuse issues? Not having seen any action myself I guess that we'd struggle to answer the question. As boring as it may be for people wanting speedway new I guess I'm saying don't deflect from this thread as well. This needs to be kept high on the agenda and they need a plan c .I know that's not your intention but that's what another thread does. I was aware of the possible downside, but what’s the alternative? Do nothing and that’s rarely my style. Let’s hope that your words prompt people to sign! Edited January 31, 2020 by NeilWatson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Do nothing is not my style as you will know but this petition seems fragmented and causes further probs as it either directs you to facebook or demands £7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted January 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wealdstone said: Do nothing is not my style as you will know but this petition seems fragmented and causes further probs as it either directs you to facebook or demands £7. Change.org is a well established site for these things but I am surprised how clunky it really is. It is possible to decline their suggestions of payment etc via a link at the end of each page of the voting process. The BSF was becoming so polluted by the idiot poster I wanted to focus on the issue. Edited January 31, 2020 by NeilWatson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: I was aware of the possible downside, but what’s the alternative? Do nothing and that’s rarely my style. No, there's plenty of mileage in this, just keep posting. As Gustix says, there's a number of supporters out there who have no idea about this. It's not the sort of thing that hits the ET or BBC Radio Cambs so the affected non internet brigade are in for one hell of shock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Signed. Blimey, Stevebrum signs for Boro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollslayer Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 41 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Change.org is a well established site for these things but I am surprised how clunky it really is. It is possible to decline their suggestions of payment etc via a link at the end of each page of the voting process. The BSF was becoming so polluted by the idiot poster I wanted to focus on the issue. Only the 13 signatures after 2 hours haha. Good luck and don't ever return to Peterborough Speedway as the business is better off without you. Hope Buster bans you from the Showground seeing as you're trying to cause a rift around the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Going from what the club have posted on twitter, it would appear they think their decision is no big deal. Quite staggering ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Going from what the club have posted on twitter, it would appear they think their decision is no big deal. Quite staggering ... As a non twitterer what have they put on twitter?t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytiger Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 How the hec do we manage our every day life I wonder. We all need to go shopping for what ever.These days we have to go into a precinct or shopping centre,even supermarket. Apart from the severely disable we manage to get around some how. Having watched some BB holder park outside a large shop then find no problem walking around,with a frame or chair. I can not see what the problem is with the Blue Badge parking area at Peterborough.is. I now believe that there is a trouble maker on here just wanting to stir a POO POT.I love Speedway and only the rain will stop me and a more from turning up for every meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 I can give you a daily diary of my life if you like? With and without carer to show the difference..... Suffice to say, without a carer, going to the supermarket was/is a no go area let alone a precinct or shopping centre and it is only recently I have actually had a full time carer. Before that, my life was extremely limited and isolating. However, at 49 years young, I do still like my independence and anything that allows me to have that, I will grab onto for as long as I can. Thankfully I have an extremely understanding and flexible employer who is good at spotting changes that can be made even before I do to make my life easier and ensuring I can still work while my body deteriorates ever more and now a carer to deliver me to my desk and collect me afterwards. Re Peterborough and their changes, for a singleton disabled person, it makes it nigh on impossible for them to attend because the distances are too great unless they then also find and pay for a carer to attend. For most, this would be outside of their affordability. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted February 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, greytiger said: How the hec do we manage our every day life I wonder. We all need to go shopping for what ever.These days we have to go into a precinct or shopping centre,even supermarket. Apart from the severely disable we manage to get around some how. Having watched some BB holder park outside a large shop then find no problem walking around,with a frame or chair. I can not see what the problem is with the Blue Badge parking area at Peterborough.is. I now believe that there is a trouble maker on here just wanting to stir a POO POT.I love Speedway and only the rain will stop me and a more from turning up for every meeting. Distance, terrain and lighting to name three There’s certainly a trouble-maker on here - the one who changes his forum name every day and swamps otherwise sensible debate with ‘poo’. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, greytiger said: How the hec do we manage our every day life I wonder. We all need to go shopping for what ever.These days we have to go into a precinct or shopping centre,even supermarket. Apart from the severely disable we manage to get around some how. Having watched some BB holder park outside a large shop then find no problem walking around,with a frame or chair. I can not see what the problem is with the Blue Badge parking area at Peterborough.is. I now believe that there is a trouble maker on here just wanting to stir a POO POT.I love Speedway and only the rain will stop me and a more from turning up for every meeting. Educate yourself and you might make a valid contribution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 My wife is in an advanced stage of cancer for both lungs, breast and hip, and recently finished an 18-week course of chemo, which hasn't worked, so has just started another 6-9 month course of a different chemo.which means she can only do short walks at a time without resting, which rules us out of ever going to Peterborough again. She's always loved her speedway at Peterborough, as do I to be honest, and now we'll NEVER be able to go there again. It's a very sad day for us and the great many others that are disabled, who have ploughed money through the turnstiles for 'X' amount of years, only to be thrown aside like this. There was never any problems with cars, disabled or not, parking inside Buxton and Stoke, so why should there be at Peterborough. It's far more dangerous leaving other stadiums where the public are mingling with cars trying to beat each other out of the car park. If we assume that say twenty cars with blue badge holders stop attending, and I'm sure it will be a lot more than that, there's usually a minimum of two people in each vehicle, that takes it up to forty paying customers, and let's assume they are all concession customers, that the club will lose throughout the season.At the moment, assuming they don't make the play-off's, they have sixteen home fixtures planned. Based on the 2019 admission price of £16 (they haven't disclosed the 2020 prices on their website, other than for season tickets) that equates to £10,240. All twenty cars pay £1 to park which equals £320, and lets presume that 50% of them buy a programme at £3 per head, which comes out at £960. That means in 2020, the club are going to lose in the region of £11,520. Can they really afford to do that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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