NickH114 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 It did seem possible at one stage going by comments on here that National League racing on a saturday or sunday may happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 3:50 PM, winstoncigar said: Same old tom twit. The 'Rye House Speedway Action Group' are going to appeal to the local council planning department. They also have promoters queueing up to run it. Apparently. None of whom will have pockets anywhere deep enough. Of course you are welcome to your opinion but perhaps you would like to outline your plans on how to revive Rye House and then we can decide whether its better that "tom twits". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstoncigar Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rayleigh said: Of course you are welcome to your opinion but perhaps you would like to outline your plans on how to revive Rye House and then we can decide whether its better that "tom twits". Plan to revive Rye House? Win the Euro millions jackpot on Friday. That's about the only chance we've got of seeing speedway again at Rye House Stadium, all the rest is just bluster. (or tom t*t as I tried to put in my original post) The new owner of the lease doesn't want speedway and as he's sunk a couple of million quid into his vision for the place already it'll take a massive amount of money to change his mind. Is anyone seriously saying that there's that sort of money floating about in the sport to cover that? The damage has been done and from what I can tell the majority of the blame lies in one place. Edited December 10, 2020 by winstoncigar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 You may not like or rate Steve (remember in 1999 he and another fan chose not to give in when the track was concreted over for stock cars) you might be right the odds are clearly in the hands of Musk and his bulldozers and there is only a slim chance of this working but Planning officers can be really awkward (one person closed down Romford and Mildenhall have in the past had problems) but right now I only see him trying to save the day so I will back him. in short its seems its his hope or no hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rayleigh said: You may not like or rate Steve (remember in 1999 he and another fan chose not to give in when the track was concreted over for stock cars) you might be right the odds are clearly in the hands of Musk and his bulldozers and there is only a slim chance of this working but Planning officers can be really awkward (one person closed down Romford and Mildenhall have in the past had problems) but right now I only see him trying to save the day so I will back him. in short its seems its his hope or no hope. This is yet another suggestion to try and save a venue which I see as a speedway 'well past its sell buy date.' I think structural changes have already taken place at Rye House - hasn't a main stand been built over? And what attendance potential for speedway is there for Rye House - probably about 600 with the majority not local residents. Edited December 11, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, winstoncigar said: Plan to revive Rye House? Win the Euro millions jackpot on Friday. That's about the only chance we've got of seeing speedway again at Rye House Stadium, all the rest is just bluster. (or tom t*t as I tried to put in my original post) The new owner of the lease doesn't want speedway and as he's sunk a couple of million quid into his vision for the place already it'll take a massive amount of money to change his mind. Is anyone seriously saying that there's that sort of money floating about in the sport to cover that? The damage has been done and from what I can tell the majority of the blame lies in one place. A 'spot on comment' with opinions I endorse. Edited December 11, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 hours ago, JohnHyam said: This is yet another suggestion to try and save a venue which I see as a speedway 'well past its sell buy date.' I think structural changes have already taken place at Rye House - hasn't a main stand been built over? And what attendance potential for speedway is there for Rye House - probably about 600 with the majority not local residents. I would imagine some tracks dream, to get 600 through the turnstiles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 hours ago, JohnHyam said: This is yet another suggestion to try and save a venue which I see as a speedway 'well past its sell buy date.' I think structural changes have already taken place at Rye House - hasn't a main stand been built over? And what attendance potential for speedway is there for Rye House - probably about 600 with the majority not local residents. 14 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: I would imagine some tracks dream, to get 600 through the turnstiles! I agree Ray Stadia. I was being generous in my assumption Rye House crowds were circa 600. The last time I visited the place was circa 1964 - and they certainly were more than that in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 1964 !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstoncigar Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, JohnHyam said: This is yet another suggestion to try and save a venue which I see as a speedway 'well past its sell buy date.' I think structural changes have already taken place at Rye House - hasn't a main stand been built over? And what attendance potential for speedway is there for Rye House - probably about 600 with the majority not local residents. 14 hours ago, Rayleigh said: You may not like or rate Steve (remember in 1999 he and another fan chose not to give in when the track was concreted over for stock cars) you might be right the odds are clearly in the hands of Musk and his bulldozers and there is only a slim chance of this working but Planning officers can be really awkward (one person closed down Romford and Mildenhall have in the past had problems) but right now I only see him trying to save the day so I will back him. in short its seems its his hope or no hope. I'm not sure who 'Steve' is, the article in the Star only referred to 'a spokesman' so I can't say whether I like him or not. If he thinks he can save Rye House Speedway without millions then he's deluded whoever he is and there's no kindness in giving fans false hope. Whatever the planning officers say will be after consultation primarily with the new lease holder but does anyone think in this day and age they'll favour motorsport events and facilities over ones that tick all the 'Green' boxes ? As for the Star, rather than just printing that guff, they'd be better off doing a proper investigation into what went wrong at Rye to try and stop it happening elsewhere, there are still some big questions to be answered. I've got my Euro Millions ticket though so there's still a chance Rye House can be saved! Edited December 11, 2020 by winstoncigar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 I genuinely wish you luck tonight. However on the off chance you don't win then please get behind anybody who is doing his damnest to salvage what is a very bleak situation and I can assure you he has made more progress than many of us thought he would make. Regarding crowd levels I was actually at a meeting with the BMR promoter at the time and he showed us his records from the first season in the Premiership and the highest crowd was 1,800 and nothing under four figures so 600 is easily attainable. This is still a long shot reviving the Rockets but there is a maybe a glimmer of hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 15 hours ago, winstoncigar said: I'm not sure who 'Steve' is, the article in the Star only referred to 'a spokesman' so I can't say whether I like him or not. If he thinks he can save Rye House Speedway without millions then he's deluded whoever he is and there's no kindness in giving fans false hope. Whatever the planning officers say will be after consultation primarily with the new lease holder but does anyone think in this day and age they'll favour motorsport events and facilities over ones that tick all the 'Green' boxes ? As for the Star, rather than just printing that guff, they'd be better off doing a proper investigation into what went wrong at Rye to try and stop it happening elsewhere, there are still some big questions to be answered. I've got my Euro Millions ticket though so there's still a chance Rye House can be saved! Maybe 'Steve' is the same guy, who was going to bring speedway back to Milton Keynes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: Maybe 'Steve' is the same guy, who was going to bring speedway back to Milton Keynes? ...or had a mention in regard to Wimbledon and Norwich - and as far afield as Spain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnHyam said: ...or had a mention in regard to Wimbledon and Norwich - and as far afield as Spain? 1 hour ago, Ray Stadia said: Maybe 'Steve' is the same guy, who was going to bring speedway back to Milton Keynes? Mock away gentleman. Lets just layout a few facts, he jointly re-opened Rye House in 1999 and was not in charge when it shut, he re-opened Wimbledon on his own and was not in charge when it shut. He ultimately failed but spent a fortune of his own money to try to re-launch Norwich after 50 years. No doubt he has made mistakes and has faults but please feel free to list your achievements on behalf of the speedway world, its so easy just to smirk and snipe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Anyone trying to save Rye House has my full support. But. I’m a Rye House fan, I live a stone’s throw from the track. I am a regular contributor to this forum, which is the biggest (potentially only) fan forum for British Speedway. I don’t buy the Speedway Star however. I haven’t heard a peep of any attempts about trying to reopen the track except what I see here. Now this isn’t a “why hasn’t anyone told me” comment. I just think if you’re trying to achieve something like saving a Speedway track you should be looking to garner as much local and online support as possible. By all means use the Star as an outlet, but don’t make it your only outlet because not everyone reads it. Just as not all Star readers use this forum, or Twitter, Facebook etc. I fear that Rye is beyond saving. If there is a glimmer of hope then it needs to be promoted and exhausted properly before it either works or is given up on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Ben91 said: Anyone trying to save Rye House has my full support. But. I’m a Rye House fan, I live a stone’s throw from the track. I am a regular contributor to this forum, which is the biggest (potentially only) fan forum for British Speedway. I don’t buy the Speedway Star however. I haven’t heard a peep of any attempts about trying to reopen the track except what I see here. Now this isn’t a “why hasn’t anyone told me” comment. I just think if you’re trying to achieve something like saving a Speedway track you should be looking to garner as much local and online support as possible. By all means use the Star as an outlet, but don’t make it your only outlet because not everyone reads it. Just as not all Star readers use this forum, or Twitter, Facebook etc. I fear that Rye is beyond saving. If there is a glimmer of hope then it needs to be promoted and exhausted properly before it either works or is given up on. Thanks Ben91 for supporting anyone trying to turn this thing around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Ben91 said: I fear that Rye is beyond saving. If there is a glimmer of hope then it needs to be promoted and exhausted properly before it either works or is given up on. I agree. Rye House is 'the past'. Let's look elsewhere and try to salvage where other speedway track problems look likely to arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, JohnHyam said: I agree. Rye House is 'the past'. Let's look elsewhere and try to salvage where other speedway track problems look likely to arise. coming from someone who last went there in 1964 you seem to know a lot 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnHyam said: I agree. Rye House is 'the past'. Let's look elsewhere and try to salvage where other speedway track problems look likely to arise. That’s not what I’m saying at all John. Shame that Peterborough and Ipswich who don’t own their own tracks got bailed out and Rye House who had no restrictions weren’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Sad thing is we all know rye is gone regardless of the effort put in by those wanting to save it at its current location. Surely these efforts would be better directed at re inventing it at a different location in the same locality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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