orion Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, poole keith said: you omitted the question mark orion after your second question no worries,obviously if you make a losing selection you lose your money thats pretty obvious.A lot of people prefer to bet on a" round" rather than the final outcome,99%of football bets are on each weekly "round" not the league winners,i know people who bet on the snooker rounds but not ante post the outright winner,same with many many sports.as i dont know who you are orion i cant and wont make any comment on your possible relations. Football and Snooker are head to head sports so have nothing in common with a speedway market .that has 16 riders so your point has zero value . But we are getting away from the point that Starman was trying to make that's isomehow it's better to back a rider in a round just because his odds are better than his overall odds . That makes no sense just like you saying it's easier to win a round and more chance of a pick up. Edited February 14, 2020 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 It's one of those TBH. If you pick a rider to win outright, the odds can be short. But he can have some bad rounds and still win the title. But with round winners you can pick a rider on form or who has a good record on a certain track, but if the have a bad one the bet is gone. It can't be recovered.It's whatever you prefer at the end of the day.. Each to their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: It's one of those TBH. If you pick a rider to win outright, the odds can be short. But he can have some bad rounds and still win the title. But with round winners you can pick a rider on form or who has a good record on a certain track, but if the have a bad one the bet is gone. It can't be recovered.It's whatever you prefer at the end of the day.. Each to their own. Spot on.what you want to bet on it's up to you.but there is no logic in saying that you should back a rider in a round because his price is higher than his overall odds or that is easier to pick rounds winners than overall.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Tim G said: Madsen’s round price will normally be above 3/1 unless he wins the first couple so it does make sense. I got him at 14s at Warsaw and I think 13/2 at Cardiff. Most meetings last year he was around 11/2 except at Toruń which his price was quite short if I remember correctly. Why does it make sense ? you can t base it on results after the Event .. what if you get these prices and they don't win ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim G Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, orion said: Why does it make sense ? you can t base it on results after the Event .. what if you get these prices and they don't win ? Well it does to some even if it doesn’t to you. Each person will bet the way they see it best and how they feel they are getting the best value. I don’t see 3/1 to win the championship as good value but he might be 5/1 to win a certain round which I feel is value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tim G said: Well it does to some even if it doesn’t to you. Each person will bet the way they see it best and how they feel they are getting the best value. I don’t see 3/1 to win the championship as good value but he might be 5/1 to win a certain round which I feel is value. I never said what was best I said any bet will always have its merits and each can have value ..the question being asked is why is it better just because the odds are higher than the overall odds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 I'm going for an each way bet on Laguta. I think his odds are great value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 As nearly all the teams are nearly complete in the Premiership I would go the following odds SWINDON 6/4 SHEFFIELD 4/1 IPSWICH 6/1 PETERBOROUGH 7/1 WOLVERHAMPTON 8/1 KINGS LYNN 10/1 BELLE VUE 12/1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, mickthemuppet said: As nearly all the teams are nearly complete in the Premiership I would go the following odds SWINDON 6/4 SHEFFIELD 4/1 IPSWICH 6/1 PETERBOROUGH 7/1 WOLVERHAMPTON 8/1 KINGS LYNN 10/1 BELLE VUE 12/1 Comedy from the master again .. As Belle Vue are going to the outsiders and Sheffield the second favs . I expect when the odds come out it be Swindon , Wolves and Belle Vue at the top of the market and the rest a much of a muchess . The above shows how little you understand betting and Speedway Edited February 20, 2020 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think Vaculik has the talent to become World Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 But does Vaculik have the consistency. More then a few riders have the talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Anyone know why Artem Laguta is 30/1 to become World Champion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Anyone know why Artem Laguta is 30/1 to become World Champion? I think that is because they are the odds the Bookmakers are giving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Laguta is at 30/1 because that's what the bookmakers think his chances are given advise from their staff Speedway is a very small sport in the world of bookmakers & has very little history in gambling. And Russian speedway has had minimal involvment at world individual level since the 60's/70's eras. with all the SGP events now taking part in Poland & Czechia I think these odds are even more generous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Vaculik at 11/1 looks good EW value given the venues of the GP’s.Has been in good form this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 6:26 PM, Fromafar said: Vaculik at 11/1 looks good EW value given the venues of the GP’s.Has been in good form this year. Can you remember where you saw those odds? I quite fancy an e/w punt at that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, iainb said: Can you remember where you saw those odds? I quite fancy an e/w punt at that price Bet 365 have Vaculik at 11/1 currently. Laguta at 14/1 is tempting too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Bet 365 have Vaculik at 11/1 currently. Laguta at 14/1 is tempting too... Not so sure about Laguta, bit of a start tart... Having said that there's no "trick" tracks this year so I think going on current Polish form could be a wise move 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, iainb said: Not so sure about Laguta, bit of a start tart... Having said that there's no "trick" tracks this year so I think going on current Polish form could be a wise move Wouldn’t go near him with a barge pole usually. Over a few weeks however, and in good form, e/w I could be tempted. No value in Zmarzlik (5/2), Madsen (3/1) or Sayfutdinov (7/2) for me. Tai is at 8/1, I can see him raising his game for the GPs but again I don’t think anything under 10s is worth the punt. Stuck a quid on Tai at 100/1 the year he won his first world title. Definitely one of those “if only I’d stuck a tenner on” bets... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Wouldn’t go near him with a barge pole usually. Over a few weeks however, and in good form, e/w I could be tempted. No value in Zmarzlik (5/2), Madsen (3/1) or Sayfutdinov (7/2) for me. Tai is at 8/1, I can see him raising his game for the GPs but again I don’t think anything under 10s is worth the punt. Stuck a quid on Tai at 100/1 the year he won his first world title. Definitely one of those “if only I’d stuck a tenner on” bets... You never see a poor bookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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