Transfer Window

[tellboy]

So a transfer window has been introduced.What's the thoughts of the speedway public.Early thoughts from me is i think it is a good idea.

Taken from the BSPA website.

 

BRITISH Speedway’s Premiership teams will have a transfer window to work to next season.

Club bosses have voted in a proposal to restrict the opportunity to sign riders.

Signings can now only be made, apart from proven injury, after 25 per cent of Premiership fixtures and before 75 per cent are complete.

In addition, only two team changes are permitted during this time.

British Speedway Chairman Rob Godfrey said: “This ruling now means clubs have to be particularly prudent when making signings and won’t just make changes for the sake of it.

“The regulation comes into force for the 2020 season.”

Godfrey has also confirmed fixture planning is well advanced.

“The fixture planning is always complex because of stadium availability, clashes of dates with other countries, culminating in rider availability.

“My information is we should almost be there now in terms of planning the Premiership and Championship, there are just a couple of sticking points which need to be addressed.”

[Grachan]

Looks like the Swedish doctor is going to be busy proving injuries next year then!

[acef]

Another rule that is open to manipulation.

In theory its not a bad idea, but as is ever the case with the association, they probably won’t enforce it when a doctors note comes in.

If it’s a genuine absence then that is fine, but I’ll bet my last dollar that at least half won’t be.

[GWC]

Any ruling that brings about the way teams will make changes is a good thing.

Seems it only applies to the Premiership though.

 

[SPEEDY69]

Good idea to restrict in my view, even if it's only to a lesser degree.

[SPEEDY69]

Is it 25% of fixtures overall?  So start later and you could still makes changes after just a handful of meetings?  No doubt there'll be winners and losers as always and we'll all debate it on here 

[Call me wolfie]

16 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Is it 25% of fixtures overall?  So start later and you could still makes changes after just a handful of meetings?  No doubt there'll be winners and losers as always and we'll all debate it on here 

For fairness, the window will have to open at the same time for everyone

[Fortythirtyeight]

Rules being made up after the AGM?

so what's the point of the AGM!

This is yet another one that will be manipulated by the more unscrupulous promoters with more dubious sick notes that cannot be questioned . 

[tellboy]

39 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Is it 25% of fixtures overall?  So start later and you could still makes changes after just a handful of meetings?  No doubt there'll be winners and losers as always and we'll all debate it on here 

I assumed it would be for individual clubs that when they have completed 6 matches they can make transfers,then when they have completed 18 they can't.

[Bald Bloke]

I don't think it's a bad thing at all. However, the manipulation is still possible via the Doctors note. 

A step in the right direction though.

[tellboy]

3 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Rules being made up after the AGM?

so what's the point of the AGM!

This is yet another one that will be manipulated by the more unscrupulous promoters with more dubious sick notes that cannot be questioned . 

Normally when a dubious sick note is produced the team involved are only using a guest or R/R as a replacement.For a transfer to take place i wouldn't think you would be able to produce a dubious sick note as this would have to be over a longer course of time i would expect.

[Fortythirtyeight]

9 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Normally when a dubious sick note is produced the team involved are only using a guest or R/R as a replacement.For a transfer to take place i wouldn't think you would be able to produce a dubious sick note as this would have to be over a longer course of time i would expect.

It only has to apply for the last quarter of the season which could be as little as 4-6 weeks.

How about a bad photo copy of an email from a supposed Danish Doctor saying " Rider sick , Not Ride" and a copy of a doctors business card alongside it?

its been done before and lasted some considerable time even though it's authenticity was questioned to be answered by " this has gone on for years , live with it!".

[tellboy]

32 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

It only has to apply for the last quarter of the season which could be as little as 4-6 weeks.

How about a bad photo copy of an email from a supposed Danish Doctor saying " Rider sick , Not Ride" and a copy of a doctors business card alongside it?

its been done before and lasted some considerable time even though it's authenticity was questioned to be answered by " this has gone on for years , live with it!".

I know things like this have gone on for years.But surely for a transfer to take place the injury has to be long term,ie over 6 weeks.Surely even the BSPA have thought of that.

[poole keith]

"proven injury" is the obvious flaw,should be that an "injured"rider is deemed to be injured if also not racing in any other country,in team or individual  meeting

[Bagpuss]

Too late, Poole have changed leagues  

A good idea IF it’s properly administered. 

[Daniel Smith]

Now Poole have gone I don't see what this ruling adds. Can't think of any team last season or before that that's made many changes for the sake of change. 

While it sounds like something, it's actually nothing. 

[Star Lady]

15 minutes ago, tellboy said:

I know things like this have gone on for years.But surely for a transfer to take place the injury has to be long term,ie over 6 weeks.Surely even the BSPA have thought of that.

Maybe the doc signing the sick note should have to give estimated time that the rider will return to fitness. rider not allowed to ride before that date, might stop rider collusion.

[CatAndy]

I think this is a really bad idea. Any underperforming rider will be safe in the knowledge that he doesn't have to up his game, his place is secure. In other sports there are reserves champing at the bit, waiting for their big chance. Speedway isn't like that. There's seven and that's it. By this rule, my beloved Aces would have been stuck with for example Filip Sitera or Ricky Wells and not been able to replace him while he takes the piss and tootles round. 

[Phil The Ace]

1 hour ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Rules being made up after the AGM?

so what's the point of the AGM!

This is yet another one that will be manipulated by the more unscrupulous promoters with more dubious sick notes that cannot be questioned . 

It was thought up at the AGM. Lemon mentioned it in a belle vue YouTube video.

[PotteringAround]

1 minute ago, Phil The Ace said:

It was thought up at the AGM. Lemon mentioned it in a belle vue YouTube video.

Correct.  It's a rule that was voted in at the AGM.

Not a bad idea, and certainly better than the 31 July or 31 August transfer deadlines we've had previously.

At the start of the season no team can kick a rider out until they've ridden 6 matches.  At the end of the season once you've completed 18 matches you have to stick with your team for the last 6 matches and play-offs.

This is much fairer as all teams are working to the same deadline.   With a cut-off at a specific date (31 July or 31 August) teams have done uneven numbers of meetings at that date, so they can fiddle their way round the rules.

Of course there will still be ways to fiddle, but lessthan with a set-date deadline.