DC2 Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Poole have some Aussies but so do Swindon, the majority of riders in the Poole team are British though. Anyway not sure this is the right place for Poole or CL discussions . Yes, but you said every PL team should have an U21 Brit; and surely that should start in the CL, with teams like Poole setting an example rather than signing three 4 point Aussies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: must have missed the report saying ipswich were trying to sign chris holder ????? anyone got any actual proof ???? no they haven't its all hear say so let's deal with FACTS which is chris holder NOT riding for ipswich !! that is very high on my skills thank you I assume you realise that some folk on here are close enough to people involved at speedway clubs to know what’s going on without it having to be in the public domain? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Steve0 said: People are referring to them as Dad's Army and yet you say they have more potential than most other teams - a bit of an oxymoron They certainly have riders who underperformed last season and are capable of much better, a lot of people are tipping Swindon to do well but they don't have many riders who you would expect to improve much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, but you said every PL team should have an U21 Brit; and surely that should start in the CL, with teams like Poole setting an example rather than signing three 4 point Aussies? If any team should set an example it should be the previous seasons champions but I don't think it is up to any team to set an example it should be in the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, foreverblue said: They certainly have riders who underperformed last season and are capable of much better, a lot of people are tipping Swindon to do well but they don't have many riders who you would expect to improve much. The top 4 of Swindon should be around the same average as they started with so if the bottom 3 don’t improve then it would be highly unlikely to retain the title. As you say improvement is something that is needed but so is maintaining their starting average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, geoff58 said: until actual proof is proved it's all gossip & chit chat better to deal in FACTS Most of the forum contains chit chat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Crazy robin said: The top 4 of Swindon should be around the same average as they started with so if the bottom 3 don’t improve then it would be highly unlikely to retain the title. As you say improvement is something that is needed but so is maintaining their starting average. If all Swindon Top 4 maintain their average they will have had a good season, I think Perks can improve a little but it really depends on what Stewart and Rowe are capable of . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, geoff58 said: until actual proof is proved it's all gossip & chit chat better to deal in FACTS Indeed Edited February 28, 2020 by bigcatdiary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 16 hours ago, foreverblue said: If any team should set an example it should be the previous seasons champions but I don't think it is up to any team to set an example it should be in the rules. Well, your wish has been granted because Swindon have Anders Rowe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, DC2 said: Well, your wish has been granted because Swindon have Anders Rowe! Jordan Stewart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Jordan Stewart! What about him? You said the Champions should set an example by signing a Brit U21 and we have. Stewart is a proven foreigner on his way up, unlike Poole’s Aussies who have denied places for Greaves, Kinsley and Hume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, DC2 said: What about him? You said the Champions should set an example by signing a Brit U21 and we have. Stewart is a proven foreigner on his way up, unlike Poole’s Aussies who have denied places for Greaves, Kinsley and Hume. Anders has a chance i hope he makes it. Poole has 4 British riders Swindon has 3. As i said it should be in the rules, Swindon have Anders because his average fitted,they could have had a British rider instead of Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 9:07 AM, DC2 said: I think you’re over rating Swindon and under rating Peterborough! For me, Boro is the strongest team, with everyone having the potential to add a point. I rate pboro but can’t see a point improvement in everyone personally, palm toft at 6.3 is about the highest he’ll avg - he’s good value to maintain that but can’t see him going north of 7, can’t see tungate getting up to 7.59 either 7 as a threshold imo, nicholls and hans will improve I think and possibly bomber with a more preferred home track - is niels really gonna go up to 8.54?? More like 8 max imo, not knocking anyone just think you’re over exaggerating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, 89buttons said: I rate pboro but can’t see a point improvement in everyone personally, palm toft at 6.3 is about the highest he’ll avg - he’s good value to maintain that but can’t see him going north of 7, can’t see tungate getting up to 7.59 either 7 as a threshold imo, nicholls and hans will improve I think and possibly bomber with a more preferred home track - is niels really gonna go up to 8.54?? More like 8 max imo, not knocking anyone just think you’re over exaggerating Here’s their signed averages for this year and their 2018 ones in brackets: Andersen 5.79 (7.56), Tungate 6.59 (7.61), Harris 6.16 (7.78), Nicholls 5.5 (6.64). Surely there’s a chance that they could recover their 2018 form and add a point each? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, DC2 said: Here’s their signed averages for this year and their 2018 ones in brackets: Andersen 5.79 (7.56), Tungate 6.59 (7.61), Harris 6.16 (7.78), Nicholls 5.5 (6.64). Surely there’s a chance that they could recover their 2018 form and add a point each? Possibly Tungate, the rest are past their best, but could at best hold their average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, DC2 said: Here’s their signed averages for this year and their 2018 ones in brackets: Andersen 5.79 (7.56), Tungate 6.59 (7.61), Harris 6.16 (7.78), Nicholls 5.5 (6.64). Surely there’s a chance that they could recover their 2018 form and add a point each? This is also what people don’t get about Proctor. Seems you’re not allowed a bad year any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: This is also what people don’t get about Proctor. Seems you’re not allowed a bad year any more. Not sure about Proctor, personally I am not sure he will have a much better season than last year but I think when Harris or Hans start getting good scores it could spur on the whole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Not sure about Proctor, personally I am not sure he will have a much better season than last year but I think when Harris or Hans start getting good scores it could spur on the whole team. Starting at reserve I’d be gobsmacked if he doesn’t average 6+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Starting at reserve I’d be gobsmacked if he doesn’t average 6+ Nicholls must be able to get a 7 then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 With only Peterborough to announce last signing I’ll have a stab at predictions. 1. Swindon - huge top 3 that proved impossible to stop last season. The only caution is Jensen adding to that average? Ellis is excellent in mid order. Stewart is a complete unknown at this level but could make a massive difference dependant how he settles. Perks likewise has to continue his upward trend. Rowe is the weakest rider in all teams however he only has to beat his opposite number 7 to do his job so that’s more than possible. 2. Sheffield - a very solid top 4. Pedersen should be in the top 2 averaged riders this year if you go on polish form. Holder should be a solid number 2. Howarth should improve after an injury hit year in 2019. Their reserves are the weakest pair tho. 3. Wolves - a solid packed side with no out an out number one could come unstuck against the powerhouse pairings. Should be room for improvement in all 7 riders which has the hallmark of a dark horse side. Nicol is unproven at the level but has a lot resting on his shoulders if he doesn’t hit the ground running. If he does then they are going to be very tough opposition. 4. Belle Vue - another side like Wolves with huge potential for growth. No recognised number one but Kurtz should really kick on at the NSS. Lidsey and Bewley are rapid talents and will hold the key to just how much of a force they will be. Kildemand will either be a hit or flop such as how his rising star has fallen over the past 12 months. Etheridge will need to improve away as he was awful before. 5. Peterborough- seems a lot will be resting on their ‘new’ 7th rider if it proves to be a newcomer. Having Iversen back is massive for the Panthers and the rest looks really solid if not a bit dads army. Hard to see a weakness. Nicholls at reserve is a no brainer for any side. 6. Kings Lynn- another solid side and will need Lambert back to his 2018 form to help the Stars back into the top 4. Cook will be a dependable number 2, whilst Riss has way more to give. The rest need to up their game particularly away. Hartel looks a weak link. 7. Ipswich. Purely based on a number 1 who has retired when still had more to give. I can’t see him being anywhere near the force he once was. However just like last season there is a solid look about them so won’t be surprised again if they prove to be the biggest of dark horses again. Crumps main strength will be as coach and motivator in my opinion that could have a huge influence on all 6 riders. This could be the making of Kemp who on paper looks 2nd worst number 7. As a Brit I hope he has a massive year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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