SPEEDY69 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1. Swindon 2. Sheffield 3. Belle Vue 4. Wolverhampton 5. King's Lynn 6. Ipswich 7. Peterborough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 16 hours ago, geoff58 said: you won't be winning league for sure !! as for play/offs 2019 no one remembers losers And Belle Vue know all about that dont you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Swindon look clear favourites for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, squall said: 1. Peterborough 2. Wolves 3. Kings Lynn 4. Ipswich 5. Belle Vue 6. Sheffield 7. Swindon It’s upside down - lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, phillipsr said: Doyle vs Kurtz = Doyle Batch vs Killer = Batch Jensen vs Wright = Jensen Ellis vs Bewley = Ellis Stewart vs Worrall = close.. depends if Worrall is over injuries Perks vs Lidsey = Lidsey Rowe vs Etheridge = Rowe everywhere else over than the NSS so not close really... dont get the fuss on this Belle Vue team at all It's an opinion. The beauty of a forum. For the record I think your take on it absolute tripe, but opinions! We all av em' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, hans fan said: I’d change your red and black tinted specs Like I said to the last poster, it's an opinion. I couldn't give 2 hoots about BV. I've long since argued on here that my priority is speedway rarther than clubs. I watch BV because I'm Mancunian but have no fan type of allegiance. I watch many teams and just generally enjoy Motorsport be it 2 or 4 wheels. I have no bias and for the last time it's just an opinion so let's stop with the flippant remarks. It's very, very childish. Edited January 12, 2020 by acef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 21 hours ago, geoff58 said: you won't be winning league for sure !! as for play/offs 2019 no one remembers losers But everyone remembers the losers who didn’t make the play offs #justnotgoodenough 15 hours ago, acef said: Doyle is a much stronger number 1 than Kurtz. Absolutely nothing between Wright/Killer and Batch/Jensen. In fact Jensen will struggle to keep that average. Below that BV are much stronger. 2 top teams whichever way it’s dressed and will be cut free from the rest of the league. More than happy to disagree. For me ... Swindon then Sheffield then the rest (so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: 1st time in 5 years !! When did BV last win the league? I think it was 1993. So I don’t understand where your confidence comes from - unless you just like winding people up. I would love BV to return to the top as they have a stadium worthy of champions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, geoff58 said: don't worry it won't be long !! Don’t think anyone is worried about the Aces anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, geoff58 said: that's your entitled opinion for what its worth ?? won't lose any sleep over that It’s worth as much as yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, geoff58 said: more so than wolves You need to look at predictions made on here before you put a bigger foot in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Christ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, geoff58 said: i'd worry about you own on going problems before harping on about confidence !! I don’t have any problems but thanks for your concern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 12:09 AM, acef said: Doyle is a much stronger number 1 than Kurtz. Absolutely nothing between Wright/Killer and Batch/Jensen. In fact Jensen will struggle to keep that average. Below that BV are much stronger. 2 top teams whichever way it’s dressed and will be cut free from the rest of the league. I believe Bachelor & Jensen are far stronger than Kildemand & Wright tbh! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: I believe Bachelor & Jensen are far stronger than Kildemand & Wright tbh! I’m surprised that anyone would think different! Well unless you are a red, black and white supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I believe Bachelor & Jensen are far stronger than Kildemand & Wright tbh! Bet my bottom dollar wright finishes with a higher average than Jensen. Jensen is in a difficult spot now, his average is only going 1 way. Weight got his average as a heat leader and number 1 for a while. Kildemand has been poor but that’s not the real version of him. If he rediscovers his form, there will be nothing between him and Batchelor. Doyle is head and shoulders above the rest of the league so no comparison. Beneath that I think BV are stronger with better reserves, and equal 2nd strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, stevebrum said: I’m surprised that anyone would think different! Well unless you are a red, black and white supporter. As I’ve said above, Jensen got that average as a combination of reserve/2nd string and heat leader. It’s a massive season for him and with the length of that Swindon tail, I think it’s a huge risk asking him to maintain that average as a now fully fledged heat leader. Wright had different circumstances and got that average in an entirely different way, much harder circumstances. Kildemand is a huge gamble, but a very talented rider all the same and historically has ridden at a higher level than Batchelor. In the uk as it stands I agree, batch gets the nod, but let’s revisit that at the end of the season. And at the risk of repeating myself, belle vue have no tail. They have strong reserves and decent 2nd strings, that puts them in a better place than Swindon. That said, Swindon marginally take the heat leader call but overall, there is nothing between the 2 teams and I actually think BV are a little better. It’s all immaterial though, because Swindon will without doubt make changes like last season and that shifts the whole thing, because at the point they will become clear favourites. Rossiter is very good at that. But right now in this moment, both BV and Swindon are clear favourites. All in my opinion of course ;-) Edited January 13, 2020 by acef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, acef said: As I’ve said above, Jensen got that average as a combination of reserve/2nd string and heat leader. It’s a massive season for him and with the length of that Swindon tail, I think it’s a huge risk asking him to maintain that average as a now fully fledged heat leader. Wright had different circumstances and got that average in an entirely different way, much harder circumstances. Kildemand is a huge gamble, but a very talented rider all the same and historically has ridden at a higher level than Batchelor. In the uk as it stands I agree, batch gets the nod, but let’s revisit that at the end of the season. And at the risk of repeating myself, belle vue have no tail. They have strong reserves and decent 2nd strings, that puts them in a better place than Swindon. That said, Swindon marginally take the heat leader call but overall, there is nothing between the 2 teams and I actually think BV are a little better. It’s all immaterial though, because Swindon will without doubt make changes like last season and that shifts the whole thing, because at the point they will become clear favourites. Rossiter is very good at that. But right now in this moment, both BV and Swindon are clear favourites. All in my opinion of course ;-) Did Jensen ride at reserve though? He replaced Lampart, who was in the team, and would always have had an ave higher than Perks / Shanes / Wajknecht / Vissing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, acef said: As I’ve said above, Jensen got that average as a combination of reserve/2nd string and heat leader. It’s a massive season for him and with the length of that Swindon tail, I think it’s a huge risk asking him to maintain that average as a now fully fledged heat leader. Wright had different circumstances and got that average in an entirely different way, much harder circumstances. Kildemand is a huge gamble, but a very talented rider all the same and historically has ridden at a higher level than Batchelor. In the uk as it stands I agree, batch gets the nod, but let’s revisit that at the end of the season. And at the risk of repeating myself, belle vue have no tail. They have strong reserves and decent 2nd strings, that puts them in a better place than Swindon. That said, Swindon marginally take the heat leader call but overall, there is nothing between the 2 teams and I actually think BV are a little better. It’s all immaterial though, because Swindon will without doubt make changes like last season and that shifts the whole thing, because at the point they will become clear favourites. Rossiter is very good at that. But right now in this moment, both BV and Swindon are clear favourites. All in my opinion of course ;-) If Kildemand hits the ground running then I’d probably agree you would be joint favourites. He is a huge risk in my opinion but personally looking forward to see his all action style. Jensen actually improved his average as the season went on so obviously I disagree with your point. As far as I know he never rode at reserve either. Edited January 13, 2020 by stevebrum Added detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Did Jensen ride at reserve though? He replaced Lampart, who was in the team, and would always have had an ave higher than Perks / Shanes / Wajknecht / Vissing! Jensen never rode at reserve,and Wright only had 3 matches at no1 afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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