Steve0 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Just a reminder that titles are not won on paper and it’s how they perform on track that is important. As all teams build to a 42.5 points limit then any of the 7 teams can theoretically win it. Look at last year - on paper Ipswich looked gash and they ended up as first losers in the play offs! Edited January 11, 2020 by Steve0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Blupanther said: Just love all the folk putting Panthers bottom with only four declared riders To be honest most Peterborough fans had them bottom before anyone was signed. Is it better to just think the worst, then its a massive bonus if you do well or say your going to win it only to get a massive kick in the teeth if you dont? Edited January 11, 2020 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 hours ago, acef said: Swindon and Belle Vue are a clear top 2. I'd think the odds will reflect this. Sheffield will make them. After that it's anyone's guess, although I'm pretty certain KL will be bottom. I don’t get how Belle Vue are anywhere near a similar standard to the Robins tho so can’t agree they stand out at all. A top 3 of Doyle/Batchelor/Jensen is likely to be match winners against any other team and up against Kurtz/Kildemand/Wright it’s a no contest. It would need all 3 to have good seasons with much improved averages to even come close. In saying that there is great potential for improvement in all 3. As it stands they have no clear number one who will get big points and often. The lower end tho is the slightly improvement on the Robins. Ellis V Bewley could go either way. Pit Robins top 4 against the Aces top 4 it’s not even a contest again tho. So it’s the bottom 3 for both sides that will make the huge difference. On paper Worrall and Lidsey are head and shoulders clear of Stewart and Perks. Id say Rowe would beat Etheridge on every track bar the NSS. Etheridge needs to prove he isn’t a one track pony. Im not saying I don’t rate this Aces side btw before Aces fans start having a go. They just aren’t in the same league as the Robins on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, geoff58 said: all apart from wolves who don't build to the limit Will be hilarious if and when we win the league then won’t it! remember it’s not how you start, it’s how you finish - like the reason we made the play offs in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 1. Swindon 2. Belle Vue 3. Ipswich 4. Peterborough 5. Wolves 6. Sheffield 7. Kings Lynn TBF, top two will be the top two, other 5 could be anywhere. All dependant on Panthers signing Niels and not Mikkel B/Scotty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 If Swindon pick up a long term injury to one of the top 4,,,they have had it,, as not many replacement riders of a decent quality about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Can we do another prediction when some teams have made their mid/end season changes in readiness for the play-offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 TBF this topic is just a bit of fun before the season kicks in, me personally, I hope 2020 is a season to remember and for all the right reasons. Good luck and best wishes to all teams and fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Stewart, Perks & Rowe is the weakest tail end in the league. Shocked to see so many people putting Swindon 1st. If Ellis or Jensen has a bad night then Swindon are stuffed on that night. Robins needs the top four to being on it every week. 35+ points every week they need from those 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Ward Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 1. Kings Lynn 2. Ipswich 3. Swindon 4. Belle Vue 5. Peterborough 6. Wolves 7. Sheffield Forever the eternal optimist !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, geoff58 said: you won't be winning league for sure !! as for play/offs 2019 no one remembers losers I remember BV didn’t even make the play-offs #justsaying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Half the fun of the thread is seeing people getting their knickers in a twist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 11, 2020 Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 Right here we go (1) Belle Vue (2) Wolves (3) Ipswich (4) Sheffield (5) Swindon (6) Kings Lynn (7) Peterborough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 hours ago, stevebrum said: I don’t get how Belle Vue are anywhere near a similar standard to the Robins tho so can’t agree they stand out at all. A top 3 of Doyle/Batchelor/Jensen is likely to be match winners against any other team and up against Kurtz/Kildemand/Wright it’s a no contest. It would need all 3 to have good seasons with much improved averages to even come close. In saying that there is great potential for improvement in all 3. As it stands they have no clear number one who will get big points and often. The lower end tho is the slightly improvement on the Robins. Ellis V Bewley could go either way. Pit Robins top 4 against the Aces top 4 it’s not even a contest again tho. So it’s the bottom 3 for both sides that will make the huge difference. On paper Worrall and Lidsey are head and shoulders clear of Stewart and Perks. Id say Rowe would beat Etheridge on every track bar the NSS. Etheridge needs to prove he isn’t a one track pony. Im not saying I don’t rate this Aces side btw before Aces fans start having a go. They just aren’t in the same league as the Robins on paper. Doyle is a much stronger number 1 than Kurtz. Absolutely nothing between Wright/Killer and Batch/Jensen. In fact Jensen will struggle to keep that average. Below that BV are much stronger. 2 top teams whichever way it’s dressed and will be cut free from the rest of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 hours ago, acef said: Doyle is a much stronger number 1 than Kurtz. Absolutely nothing between Wright/Killer and Batch/Jensen. In fact Jensen will struggle to keep that average. Below that BV are much stronger. 2 top teams whichever way it’s dressed and will be cut free from the rest of the league. I’d change your red and black tinted specs 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 hours ago, acef said: Doyle is a much stronger number 1 than Kurtz. Absolutely nothing between Wright/Killer and Batch/Jensen. In fact Jensen will struggle to keep that average. Below that BV are much stronger. 2 top teams whichever way it’s dressed and will be cut free from the rest of the league. Doyle vs Kurtz = Doyle Batch vs Killer = Batch Jensen vs Wright = Jensen Ellis vs Bewley = Ellis Stewart vs Worrall = close.. depends if Worrall is over injuries Perks vs Lidsey = Lidsey Rowe vs Etheridge = Rowe everywhere else over than the NSS so not close really... dont get the fuss on this Belle Vue team at all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 I’ve put Aces second because for me they have five riders with improvement in them. Of course that also comes with risk as nothing is guaranteed. Essentially they look less mediocre than five other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I’ve put Aces second because for me they have five riders with improvement in them. Of course that also comes with risk as nothing is guaranteed. Essentially they look less mediocre than five other teams. That's pretty much how I see it although my assessment is that we should reach the play offs, not that we are necessarily the second best team. Potentially, I think we have two big improves in Bewley and Lidsey and Kurtz, Wright and Worrall capable of increasing their starting average. It's academic to the extent that, as we all know, it's not usually the team you start with but the changes you make later in the season and injuries that determine where you finish. As it stands, Swindon have the strongest top 4 but then 3 not very strong reserves. For me, looking at the Aces, there is a big question mark over Kildemand. We know what he can do but his form last year was poor by his standards. If he gets back to his best we have a solid team with Lidsey at reserve and if he moves up, Worrall to replace him. If that is how it works out then I think our overall team strength is as good as Swindon. Although they have the added benefit of a bigger home track advantage. If Kildemand continues his poor form we must act quickly to replace him. The difficulty could be finding a better alternative Edited January 12, 2020 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Love to see so many different opinions this to me says that we could have a very even competitive league this year.Lots of if's and but's for a lot of teams it will be interesting to see which teams gel and which teams disappoint looking forward now for the season to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1. Peterborough 2. Wolves 3. Kings Lynn 4. Ipswich 5. Belle Vue 6. Sheffield 7. Swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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