iris123 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Seen a couple of vague mentions of speedway in Mexico. Today looking at the line-up for the US 3 day Championship event at the L.A Coliseum, 1934 ,it mentions that Cordy Milne is the champion of Mexico !!! Anyone have any details at all of speedway in that country ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 the Californians went there and ran several meetings in Mexico City ca.1933/34 but it was a one-off tour and as far as I know rhe sport did not catch on in Mexico. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 I have this 1934 advert for the Crocker dirt track bike, and on the four corners are small pictures of race events. Bottom left reads Mexico City 1933. The others are Los Angeles 1931 (top left), San Diego 1932 (top right), and Oakland 1933 (bottom right) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bavarian said: I have this 1934 advert..... Where did you get it? A rare item indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, False dawn said: Where did you get it? A rare item indeed. here https://www.bikermetric.com/vintage-bike-of-the-day-1934-crocker-speedway/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) It is interesting because one of the articles I was reading today from 1933 was talking about Byrd McKinney , who had the great nickname , King of Maniac, winning against Cordy Milne and beat brother Jack in a match race. But the surprising bit for me was that the Milne brothers were riding US bikes and that 'to date all the flat track racing cycles having been imported from England....' Now that is quite a turnaround from a few years earlier when a lot of the top riders were on Harley or Indian bikes Edited January 1, 2020 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, iris123 said: It is interesting because one of the articles I was reading today from 1933 was talking about Byrd McKinney winning against Cordy Milne and beat brother Jack in a match race. But the surprising bit for me was that the Milne brothers were riding US bikes and that 'to date all the flat track racing cycles having been imported from England....' Now that is quite a turnaround from a few years earlier when a lot of the top riders were on Harley or Indian bikes Here is another interesting LINK to an article in the Motorcyclist of 1933 about the first appearances of the Crocker speedway machines ridden by the Milne Brothers at the Emeryville Speedway in Oakland, Northern California, in November of 1933. Edited January 1, 2020 by Bavarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 and still some more - The Crocker Story https://thevintagent.com/2017/04/15/the-crocker-story/ I wonder if that's Fay Taylour posing on a Crocker speedway machine in one of those pictures? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bavarian said: and still some more - The Crocker Story https://thevintagent.com/2017/04/15/the-crocker-story/ I wonder if that's Fay Taylour posing on a Crocker speedway machine in one of those pictures? Well, that is a bit strange The actual newspaper report about the brothers riding US bikes is dated 15.11.1933 . Ok reading the other link, it does put the appearance earlier at 11. + 14 November which makes sense with my report, although if one or two of those 2nd places were match races........ I also have a report of a meeting on 28.11.1933 which states The Milne brothers, Jack and Cody, expected to sparkle during the meet, failed to make their presence felt to any appreciable degree, a combination of slide and motor trouble eliminating them early One or two interesting bits from the time mention 'Mark Porter,hard riding captain of the San Diego team' plus one or two riders wearing the colors of the Emeryville Red Devils...... Edited January 2, 2020 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 There was a speedway meeting at the Youth Sports Arena in Tijuana in 1969. I know this did happen as my friend has a programme from the event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Any details on riders for that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, iris123 said: Any details on riders for that ? Give me some time and I'll ask my friend for a scan..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Managed to track down a photo of Bo Lisman, 'Shorty' Campbell, Cordy Milne,Lammy with 'Bimbo' Seward, P.A. Bigsby, Ed Seward lined up on track in Mexico https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/motorcyclist-pictorial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Here is a list of riders and mechanics etc returning to the US from Mexico. 1st-11th April 1933 Cordy Milne, Wilbur Lamereaux, Mark Porter, Burton Albrecht, Jimmy Gibbs, Frank Valenta, Marcus Kelly, Tom Cox, Robert Keller, Claud Hammond, Paul Bigsby, Vern Keithly, Elwel (Bo) Lisman, Eldon (Shorty) Campbell and Ed Seward. Seward was originally fron London England and most likely the man behind the venture. Seward was the only one accompanied by his wife and child. Regards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, iris123 said: Any details on riders for that ? Here ya go..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 There was it seems, a huge turnout for this meeting. The riders were paid half in dollars and half in pesos.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Great. Thanks !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) See that a Mexican rider was riding in California from 1933-35 and getting some decent results. Chico(Frank) Duarte at least was listed as Mexican, but then again Lammy was often refered to as the Frenchman or flying frenchman Edited January 9, 2020 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 9:00 PM, Historian said: Here is a list of riders and mechanics etc returning to the US from Mexico. 1st-11th April 1933 Cordy Milne, Wilbur Lamereaux, Mark Porter, Burton Albrecht, Jimmy Gibbs, Frank Valenta, Marcus Kelly, Tom Cox, Robert Keller, Claud Hammond, Paul Bigsby, Vern Keithly, Elwel (Bo) Lisman, Eldon (Shorty) Campbell and Ed Seward. Seward was originally fron London England and most likely the man behind the venture. Seward was the only one accompanied by his wife and child. Regards. It is interesting that I came across a piece by 'Sprouts' Elder where he states the San Diego speedway was the first purpose built track for the sport and that it was V.A Seward and W.A. Seward who got it up and running. Must be the same two guys who were with the riders in Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 10:44 PM, Bavarian said: Here is another interesting LINK to an article in the Motorcyclist of 1933 about the first appearances of the Crocker speedway machines ridden by the Milne Brothers at the Emeryville Speedway in Oakland, Northern California, in November of 1933. Also reading through reports, the Milne’s couldn’t have stayed with the Crocker bike too long. In 1934 Cordy at least was on an imported bike and during that season there was to be a clash between the US and England. Bikes that is, though the report doesn’t say which make and Harley brought out a bike that year for speedway, so it could be that. But it was announced that I think Farrand would be riding the US bike and Jack Milne would be on the English one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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