Kirkmanshulme Lane Stadium to be demolished

[Garry1603]

It has been reported in the Manchester Evening News that planning permission has been granted to build 247 homes on the site of the former Belle Vue speedway stadium. There is no date set for the demolition / build, but it looks like the end is in sight for Kirky Lane.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/historic-belle-vue-greyhound-stadium-17448332

A very sad day. The stadium is undoubtably in need of serious renovation but it kept the sport alive in Manchester when it looked to be lost. Without Kirky Lane, there wouldn't be a NSS.

Edited December 21, 2019 by Garry1603

[keepturningleft]

Please tell me the stock cars won't move to the NSS.

[Chris116]

Startrax, who run the Stock Cars at Belle Vue (and also used to run Stoke) have had a very bad end to 2019 but have said that they have not even thought of trying to run cars at the NSS as there would be more problems for them they want. They are still expecting to be able to run for the first half of 2020 at Kirkmanshulme Lane and will be continuing their fight to force the supply of a new stadium or at the very least ground to build one on. 

As was proved with Wimbledon, they have an uphill fight but fight they certainly will.

[mickthemuppet]

Today there in an anti greyhound mentality saying the sport is cruel and should be stopped. There used to be 33 greyhound stadiums in London and now I think there is only that number in the whole of the UK. If the anti greyhound brigade succeed it will then move over to horse racing like it is happening in the USA

[Daniel Smith]

2 hours ago, mickthemuppet said:

Today there in an anti greyhound mentality saying the sport is cruel and should be stopped. There used to be 33 greyhound stadiums in London and now I think there is only that number in the whole of the UK. If the anti greyhound brigade succeed it will then move over to horse racing like it is happening in the USA

Rightly so, although horses are treated much much better and much tightly regulated than Greyhound Racing. 

[tyretrax]

1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said:

Rightly so, although horses are treated much much better and much tightly regulated than Greyhound Racing. 

Do you have any inside knowledge of greyhoundracing and how dogs are treated? I've seen grown men crying over the loss of a dog and not because of the financial loss but the loss of a pet.

 

[tyretrax]

3 hours ago, mickthemuppet said:

Today there in an anti greyhound mentality saying the sport is cruel and should be stopped. There used to be 33 greyhound stadiums in London and now I think there is only that number in the whole of the UK. If the anti greyhound brigade succeed it will then move over to horse racing like it is happening in the USA

They think it was because of their protests Belle Vue is closing. These people won't be happy untill there is noihing left, speedway could be in their sights because rider get injured.

[OveFundinFan]

4 hours ago, tyretrax said:

They think it was because of their protests Belle Vue is closing. These people won't be happy untill there is noihing left, speedway could be in their sights because rider get injured.

Isn’t it more that these protesters are into stopping cruelty to animals.  Like greyhounds get abandoned when their racing days are over, and horses get injured/killed on fences. That’s what I thought.  Anything else you suggest may be an exaggeration.

[IainB]

14 hours ago, keepturningleft said:

Please tell me the stock cars won't move to the NSS.

Wouldn't they need to use the infield for recovery etc. unlikely

[GWC]

It’s not the sport itself that is cruel but the weening out at pup and training stage that is contentious and has a poor history.

[JamesHarris]

21 hours ago, mickthemuppet said:

Today there in an anti greyhound mentality saying the sport is cruel and should be stopped. There used to be 33 greyhound stadiums in London and now I think there is only that number in the whole of the UK. If the anti greyhound brigade succeed it will then move over to horse racing like it is happening in the USA

I agree. I don't know much about Greyhound racing but once the PC animal rights brigade eventually succeed in getting it eradicated in the UK they will move their attention to Horse Racing and that is when these crazed extremists will come undone. Horse racing in the USA is not the same as the rest of the World. In the US, horse racing is primarily a gambling business. You will notice all the racetracks are identical and it's more about the speed of the horse (more about this can be read in Frankie Dettori's autobiography). In the rest of the World racing is big big business worth billions of pounds. You will notice that it is highly influenced by rich arabs. Once these animal rights loons start targeting horse racing here and in Europe my guess is their ring leaders will "get a visit in the night" or go missing.  

[Crabba59]

9 hours ago, iainb said:

Wouldn't they need to use the infield for recovery etc. unlikely

I can tell you 100% that NO WAY WILL STOCKCARS EVER RACE AT NSS. THAT'S A  FACT

[Chris116]

14 minutes ago, pitstop84 said:

I can tell you 100% that NO WAY WILL STOCKCARS EVER RACE AT NSS. THAT'S A  FACT

In 1960 Ronnie Greene told a large group that included my father that there was no way Stock Cars would ever be allowed at Wimbledon and in September 1962 the Formula Two Stock Cars made their debut at Plough Lane with Stan Ingle winning the second Spedeworth World Final. Sadly it was the same day as that years Speedway World Final at Wembley so my parents took me to Wembley and we went to the Stock Cars at Wimbledon for the second meeting, the first time we had seen non-Control Board racing.

I would agree it is most unlikely but NEVER say NEVER! 

[tyretrax]

On 12/21/2019 at 4:12 AM, OveFundinFan said:

Isn’t it more that these protesters are into stopping cruelty to animals.  Like greyhounds get abandoned when their racing days are over, and horses get injured/killed on fences. That’s what I thought.  Anything else you suggest may be an exaggeration.

I know people who work very hard rehoming greyhounds when their racing days are over and some who for various reasons don't become racers. Some people swallow what the antis spout like dogs being euthanized using captive bolt guns and kennels having freezers for dead dogs, why would they want to keep them? I can assure you at licenced tracks, where the antis are targeting, dogs are humanley put to sleep by injection by a qualified vet. As far as freezers go, tracks do have a small freezer to hold deceased dog before being taken to university vet schools for student education or taken by the owner for cremation to have the ashes to keep or to be buried.

 

Edited December 22, 2019 by tyretrax

[teaboy279]

22 hours ago, iainb said:

Wouldn't they need to use the infield for recovery etc. unlikely

Whilst I doubt very much you would ever see cars at the NSS, it not totallyvimposible as cars race around the football pitch at Cowdenbeath FC.

[MattK]

9 hours ago, tyretrax said:

Some people swalow what the antis spout like dogs being euthanized using captive bolt guns and kennels having freezers for dead dogs, why would they want to keep them?

 

Thank you for highlighting this despicable behaviour. I had never heard of these actions until you pointed them out. Here is some more reading for those who don't want to "swalow [sic] what the antis spout".

Greyhound killer to face tougher sentence

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A builders' merchant who today admitted killing and burying thousands of former racing greyhounds on land near his home is to be sentenced at a crown court after magistrates said they could not impose a sufficiently severe penalty.

He was accused of slaughtering the animals using a bolt gun and disposing of the carcasses behind his home.

30 injured greyhounds put down at dog track

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The statistics were provided by Liverpool University which carries out research into making the sport safer. It receives dogs from the stadium and remains of animals from owners for further study.

Officials told the M.E.N. that in the last 12 months, their scientists had received 33 dogs from the stadium – 31 of these were put to sleep because of injury and the two others put down because of aggressive behaviour.

Greyhound breeder offers slow dogs to be killed for research

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The largest breeder of greyhounds in Britain is offering to sell healthy young dogs to be killed and dissected for research, an investigation has found.

Charles Pickering told an undercover reporter that his breeding programme continually throws up dozens of “fit and healthy” dogs that are “just a bit too slow for the tracks” and therefore a financial burden to him.

 

[iris123]

Yes. Like you I have never really had a problem with greyhound racing nor really given it much thought, but this and the Oxford thread really has highlighted a big problem and I wonder how long it can all carry on

Edited December 22, 2019 by iris123

[Chris116]

5 hours ago, teaboy279 said:

Whilst I doubt very much you would ever see cars at the NSS, it not totallyvimposible as cars race around the football pitch at Cowdenbeath FC.

At Cowdenbeath they have a proper fence around the football pitch on the inside of the Racewall track. 

The two meetings held at the old Wembley had a barrier round the football pitch but at the second meeting an F1 car jumped the barrier and went end over end across the grass with the front bumper digging holes in the pitch, that was the end of cars at Wembley!

[teaboy279]

5 hours ago, Chris116 said:

At Cowdenbeath they have a proper fence around the football pitch on the inside of the Racewall track. 

The two meetings held at the old Wembley had a barrier round the football pitch but at the second meeting an F1 car jumped the barrier and went end over end across the grass with the front bumper digging holes in the pitch, that was the end of cars at Wembley!

I believe the fencing down the straights has now been removed, it's just massive tractor tyres protecting the pitch.

[keepturningleft]

Every year at the Grand National, horses are killed for 'our entertainment'.

Not much difference between this and greyhounds in my view.