Bagpuss Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 Two more injury withdrawals today..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Two more injury withdrawals today..... Morley getting checked over just now aswel I'm sure the post was put out saying track in superb condition Edited July 31, 2022 by mc131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 Mildenhall is one of my nearer tracks but these long-running meetings put me off going to West Row. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, FromBendThree said: Mildenhall is one of my nearer tracks but these long-running meetings put me off going to West Row.  I’d go again if they could complete 15 heats in 90 mins.  3 hours seems the norm now.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 Now 9 riders withdrawn in the last 3 meetings, why is no one in authority taking action? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Two more injury withdrawals today..... Three withdrawn now... And at least 9 falls.  (i've lost count) When are Mr Vatcher and the SCB track inspectors going to stop turning a blind eye to this weekly carnage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Thumb Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 None of the withdrawals today could be blamed on track conditions. Conner King fell right on front of his team mate who had nowhere to go, Jamie Halder fell off on his own and hurt his hand. Both these I would put down to inexperienced riders. Ben Morley got hit from behind by Adam Roynon in a first bend. Only our 2nd visit to West Row this year and unfortunately probably our last due to other commitments but wouldn't be put off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) The West Row track was in great condition today thanks no doubt to no stock cars this weekend and more favourable weather conditions!  Unfortunately nearly all the crashes today and in most meetings were down to inexperience rather than track conditions. With the current sparcity of riders in current times the standard of the National League at the bottom end has dropped especially when a number of riders are out with injuries.  Jason Edwards got an 18 point maximum riding round like he was sitting in an armchair and got one of the fastest times of the season. Edited July 31, 2022 by 25yearfan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, 25yearfan said: The West Row track was in great condition today thanks no doubt to no stock cars this weekend and more favourable weather conditions!  Unfotunately nearly all the crashes today and in most meetings were down to inexperience rather than track conditions. With the current sparcity of riders in current times the standard of the National League at the bottom end has dropped especially when a number of riders are out with injuries.  Jason Edwards got an 18 point maximum riding round like he was sitting in an armchair and got one of the fastest times of the season. What inexperienced rider's where there today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted July 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, Binman said: What inexperienced rider's where there today Chris Watts who fell in near enough every race I'd say would be 1. 25YearFan is bang on the money with his post. There are riders currently in the league who wouldn't have been close to getting a team place a few years ago. The lower limit is killing the league imo. Races are much more stretched out because of the gulf in class of some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, adz_mft said: Chris Watts who fell in near enough every race I'd say would be 1. 25YearFan is bang on the money with his post. There are riders currently in the league who wouldn't have been close to getting a team place a few years ago. The lower limit is killing the league imo. Races are much more stretched out because of the gulf in class of some. Think of how good it was during Eastbourne's few years at it, proper teams , 3 good heat leaders at nearly every club. There is a fathom between best and worst and the so called league is way worse off for it . Was a really good product 5 yr back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Binman said: What inexperienced rider's where there today The exact same riders who appear in plenty of other NDL matches around the country and manage to stay on their bikes at Belle Vue, Oxford, Leicester, Berwick.... etc etc... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted July 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, RoundTheBoards said: The exact same riders who appear in plenty of other NDL matches around the country and manage to stay on their bikes at Belle Vue, Oxford, Leicester, Berwick.... etc etc... So there's been no falls from anyone at any of those tracks? There were the same amount of exclusions for falls at Oxford in their last meeting and 1 less today than at Plymouths last meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, adz_mft said: So there's been no falls from anyone at any of those tracks? Who said there'd been no falls anywhere? We're discussing a track which seems dangerous and has far more than its fair share of falls and injures more than its fair share of riders. Why don't you go through all the NDL matches and count the number of falls and injury withdrawals at each track? I think we all know which track will top the list.   But we'll be interested if your figures show otherwise.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, adz_mft said: Chris Watts who fell in near enough every race I'd say would be 1. 25YearFan is bang on the money with his post. There are riders currently in the league who wouldn't have been close to getting a team place a few years ago. The lower limit is killing the league imo. Races are much more stretched out because of the gulf in class of some. The National League often provided the best value for money racing in the country... Then it got stopped from doing so by lowering its level... A shame as it was very watchable and provided enough of a test for the better riders to still be a worthwhile benchmark in their progression.... Edited July 31, 2022 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted July 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: Who said there'd been no falls anywhere? We're discussing a track which seems dangerous and has far more than its fair share of falls and injures more than its fair share of riders. Why don't you go through all the NDL matches and count the number of falls and injury withdrawals at each track? I think we all know which track will top the list.   But we'll be interested if your figures show otherwise.    You literally said "the same riders who appear on other tracks and stay on their bikes" this clearly isn't the case. The 3 today had absolutely nothing to do with track conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 I'm sure those who were there yesterday are right that the track was blameless on this occasion but if the stats earlier in the thread are accurate about numbers of falls, injuries and time taken for meetings then the authorities need to be working with the club at the very least if they aren't already. Mildenhall is my second nearest track and having a small daughter for whom evening meetings aren't really practical a Sunday afternoon visit to West Row at some point appeals, but not if its going to take three hours and riders are getting carted away every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 12 hours ago, adz_mft said: So there's been no falls from anyone at any of those tracks? There were the same amount of exclusions for falls at Oxford in their last meeting and 1 less today than at Plymouths last meeting. Last Oxford Chargers meeting: 1 FX (Foord) and two falls that did not result in races being stopped (Simpson and Spencer) Yesterday at Mildenhall 5 exclusions due to falls: Halder (twice), Roynon, King, Watts. Five does not equal one!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 The problem with Mildenhall has always been when its prepared grippy to start with. Theres no room or run off for any error when riders are caught out (as Halder found to his peril) then the track goes slick so riders just wash across the top (as Morley/Roynon found out). The home riders normally know more of what to expect, away sides face the lottery. Falls happen at this level, injuries will occur at any track but Mildenhall does seem to have more riders hurt than other venues which has always been a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disasterpiece Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) All issues aside. Im more concerned with how quick the crowds dropping this season. I would be gutted to lose the team ive been watching for 18 years, and would be another nail in british speedways coffin to lose another track. Hope to see things pick back before its too late Edited August 1, 2022 by Disasterpiece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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