Ben91 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 12 hours ago, enotian said: What if the question is "what do cockney's call their arses?" That would be an Arris... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Doesn't matter what the question is - Harris is no longer the answer I can think of a few...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOTHING to gain by having Harris there. Look to the future. England have some excellent prospects coming through the ranks. Invest in them and, hopefully, reap the benefit later. Have the Worrall's been jettisoned by GB Speedway? Steve was on the verge of International class before his injury, seems a strange decision to pick Kemp ahead of either of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Have the Worrall's,Wright,Cook etc been asked and declined,we don't know.Maybe they are all in jobs now?Think you have to self quarantine on your return from Poland now so don't want to quarantine themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ben91 said: That would be an Arris... What does that make Anita ‘Arris?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 hours ago, HGould said: Think the point you are missing is that GB have a "Squad". A senior Squad and an Academy Squad. Adam Ellis and Charles Wright are in the senior Squad (with Tai / Lambert / Bewley (who is in both) but Worralls, Bomber and Lawson aren't. The Academy Squad includes likes of Kemp, Brennan, Palin, Gilkes;Flint;Edwards, Rowe; Bickley etc . So to bring in Bomber / Worralls / Lawson would have been same as Southgate calling a footballer in to his 22 man Squad and straight in to team. Kemp and Palin have been given U21 slots and Lambert, Bewley have main slots after Tai's injury What about Cook is he in it or not.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 9:20 PM, chunky said: It could have happened in the old World Finals, yet nobody complained about that... Do you mean individual world finals? How many times was it won with 10 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Fromafar said: What about Cook is he in it or not.? Has he ridden this year? If not, that’s a good reason why he is not included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Do you mean individual world finals? How many times was it won with 10 points? None because its not possible.....Sam Ermolenko won outright with a score of 12..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: Has he ridden this year? If not, that’s a good reason why he is not included. I’m talking about in the squad not whether he is picked,Wright is in the squad but not racing this year.I was wondering if Cook is in the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: Do you mean individual world finals? How many times was it won with 10 points? People have been pointing out that one of the flaws of the GP system, and now the SON, is that a rider(s) COULD win a World Championship without ever winning a race. It was also possible to do that with the old World Final system. Just because something didn't happen doesn't mean that it wasn't possible. Edited October 12, 2020 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, andout said: None because its not possible.....Sam Ermolenko won outright with a score of 12..... It was still possible to win a World Championship without ever winning a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, chunky said: It was still possible to win a World Championship without ever winning a race. It was possible to win by just winning 1 race and not scoring another point... if everybody else got excluded in all of their other races, unlikely though unless the ref was Frank Ebdon! Lot's of things are possible though not always likely. I think all the fans and riders want is the fairest scoring system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: I’m talking about in the squad not whether he is picked,Wright is in the squad but not racing this year.I was wondering if Cook is in the squad. Wasn’t Cook invited to be part of the squad training before what should have been the start of the season - in Southampton with the Marines or something like that - but declined to attend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: It was possible to win by just winning 1 race and not scoring another point... if everybody else got excluded in all of their other races, unlikely though unless the ref was Frank Ebdon! Lot's of things are possible though not always likely. I think all the fans and riders want is the fairest scoring system Exactly. Trouble is, because things "didn't happen", people never gave it a thought that they "could have happened". A team winning the SON without "winning" a race (even though they score the most points - which is the objective) is unlikely, but yes, it COULD happen. However, a rider becoming World Champion without winning a race is NEVER going to happen, even though it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 7:10 PM, PHILIPRISING said: NOTHING to gain by having Harris there. Look to the future. England have some excellent prospects coming through the ranks. Invest in them and, hopefully, reap the benefit later. But it’s not a practice match! Pick a team for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, chunky said: Exactly. Trouble is, because things "didn't happen", people never gave it a thought that they "could have happened". A team winning the SON without "winning" a race (even though they score the most points - which is the objective) is unlikely, but yes, it COULD happen. However, a rider becoming World Champion without winning a race is NEVER going to happen, even though it is possible. Let's not worry about low probability occurances. Let's consider something that has already taken place not so many years ago. The rules say that SON champions are the team that "win" the final race on day 2. Let's, for the moment, disregard how the two teams got there, but the GB no.1 wins that race beating those pesky ruskies into 2nd and 3rd. Then, to the surprise of our companion, who is unfamiliar with the workings of world speedway, the Russian Team are declared the SON Champions. Stop me when you get a sense of déjà vu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, False dawn said: Let's not worry about low probability occurances. Let's consider something that has already taken place not so many years ago. The rules say that SON champions are the team that "win" the final race on day 2. Let's, for the moment, disregard how the two teams got there, but the GB no.1 wins that race beating those pesky ruskies into 2nd and 3rd. Then, to the surprise of our companion, who is unfamiliar with the workings of world speedway, the Russian Team are declared the SON Champions. Stop me when you get a sense of déjà vu. I don't worry about low probability occurrences. I just get annoyed when people claim something is flawed because "that" may happen. That's why I cone on and point out that it was always the case. They just dismiss it because it never did... Thing is, whether you like rules or not, they are are there, and everybody (at least the important ones - the riders) knows them. Look at the stink after the first GP this year! We all knew the rules, and we all knew the possibilities. Why then, does it cause such a problem when something happens? That's the way it is, so they'd better get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, chunky said: I don't worry about low probability occurrences. I just get annoyed when people claim something is flawed because "that" may happen. That's why I cone on and point out that it was always the case. They just dismiss it because it never did... Thing is, whether you like rules or not, they are are there, and everybody (at least the important ones - the riders) knows them. Look at the stink after the first GP this year! We all knew the rules, and we all knew the possibilities. Why then, does it cause such a problem when something happens? That's the way it is, so they'd better get used to it. I see what you mean. But don't you think that the results of a competition such as the World Championship or the SON should make sense in retrospect? In particular, don't you think the uninitiated should easily make sense of such results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) I can understand fully people questioning why a second senior rider hasn’t been named alongside Robert, but for me the only two worth naming would be Ellis or Wright as I think they could actually be competitive and have some room for improvement. All the others have either been tried before and not performed or their careers have peaked and they aren’t good enough for international competition. On the basis that Ellis isn’t fit after his GP challenge crash (an assumption) and that Wright has chosen to stay dormant for the year it seems sensible to take the next best U21 for the experience and to reap the benefits in years to come of him being exposed to this level of competition now. Even if Kemp is way behind everyone else in his races (assuming he gets one/some) he will learn a hell of a lot from the weekend. I hope Palin and Woffinden will be there too. Edited October 12, 2020 by Bagpuss 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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