False dawn Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bavarian said: not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? I believe he's riding on a Polish licence this year to allow him into the league as a reserve. Does his licence status determine which country he can ride for rather than how many passports he has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Giving that the Government have added Poland to the quarantine list from Saturday the seeing any SON at our NSS is a non-starter, so for the reasons already highlighted it makes all kinds of sense to stage this years event in Poland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Bavarian said: not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? But he has already ridden for Russia, got a gold medal or is it two. I have a problem with sports people changing “nationality” as a matter of convenience. To dodge between one and the other is pushing too much IMO. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: But he has already ridden for Russia, got a gold medal or is it two. I have a problem with sports people changing “nationality” as a matter of convenience. To dodge between one and the other is pushing too much IMO. Seems similar to the young Trofimov who recently won a gold medal for Poland, having been a Ukrainian before. But it depends on the sport. Some have an automatic pause of I think 3 years when you represent one country and change to another. But basically it seems to be rife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwright71 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Bavarian said: not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? In the 2 SGP rounds at Wroclaw he was announced as representing Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, iwright71 said: In the 2 SGP rounds at Wroclaw he was announced as representing Poland That doesn't count though. That goes on licence, as G Laguta represented Latvia a few times if you go on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwright71 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, iris123 said: That doesn't count though. That goes on licence, as G Laguta represented Latvia a few times if you go on that So his SGP license is different to his SON license ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, iwright71 said: So his SGP license is different to his SON license ? An individual meeting, you can represent any country as long as you hold a licence. But you can't represent a team without holding a passport.....an old subject that confuses many 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Chugunov can’t represent Russia surely Why? Because he has a Polish license? So does Artem Laguta. Didn't Chuganov ride for Russia in the test match at Bydgoszcz? Haven't checked but sure he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 11 hours ago, racers and royals said: Piotr Pawlicki is also banned. Blimey, Dudek is in awful form. Drabik & Smektala average less Lambert so without seeing every fixture I'd assume they've not had stellar first years in the Ekstraliga 1-5's. Surely will get picked before Hampel who's the next Pole in the averages after Dudek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 It's a choice between Hampel on his home track, or Dudek in bad form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, eric i said: It's a choice between Hampel on his home track, or Dudek in bad form. Dudek rode brilliantly at Lublin recently. Hampel is finished at the elite level IMO. Edited October 4, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, geoff58 said: so who replaces woofinden now ? our chances of gone up in smoke !! Dan Bewley is the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, geoff58 said: no bigger bewley fan than me but no where near up to it he will stay at the reserve under 21 for the event they will have to bring someone in ??? lawson worrall ??? Woffinden should be fit, only a finger issue apparently. I'm sure he can get through a couple of rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Shouldn't The British champ should get a ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, iris123 said: An individual meeting, you can represent any country as long as you hold a licence. But you can't represent a team without holding a passport.....an old subject that confuses many Exactly, which is why Timo Lahti has appeared in the Swedish Championship riding on a Swedish licence, as well as riding for Finland in the SoN in the same year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Woffinden should be fit, only a finger issue apparently. I'm sure he can get through a couple of rides. Is this the finger injury he been carrying during the 8 GP’s ? If so, why is it bothering him now, interviewed at Toruń and he was saying GB in with a good chance. Lahti riding for the Swedish championship and for Finland in the same year - nonsense, it’s one or the other, but not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 I don’t know the Lublin track, but why not Bydgoszcz, that’s a cracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: Is this the finger injury he been carrying during the 8 GP’s ? If so, why is it bothering him now, interviewed at Toruń and he was saying GB in with a good chance. Lahti riding for the Swedish championship and for Finland in the same year - nonsense, it’s one or the other, but not both. Big crash in Poland yesterday & taken to hospital with hand/arm/wrist injuries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Is this the finger injury he been carrying during the 8 GP’s ? If so, why is it bothering him now, interviewed at Toruń and he was saying GB in with a good chance. Lahti riding for the Swedish championship and for Finland in the same year - nonsense, it’s one or the other, but not both. Eh no, it’s the massive crash he’s just had yesterday when he ran over NKI and went head first into the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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