moomin man 76 Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 9:45 AM, iainb said: I'm not calling Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe non-cricketing nations... Sri Lanka were in the first world cup. I would call: Canada, Kenya, UAE, Kenya, Scotland, Namibia, Holland, Ireland, Bermuda & Afghanistan non-cricketing countries often made up of players on passports of convenience not good enough to make their own national team A similar thing has happened with Rugby Union You obviously don't know much about cricket then, as the sport has been played in the Netherlands for over 150yrs. The Dutch have beaten the English twice at T20 cricket. Yes they have taken advantage of fielding players born outside the Netherlands on Dutch passports, but a significant core of the team grew up and learnt their cricket in the Netherlands. It is hardly as if England hasn't taken advantage of players born elsewhere on British passports... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: YOU know there is a pandemic doing the rounds? All the riders are already in Poland. Where else could they have held it Right decision to bring it forward one week, as I suggested, to allow the riders to break off early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 It was always going to be in Poland, once British Government made it impossible to stage here since that is where all the riders are based & they can get fans in. Lublin is a stupid choice though, its a small venue in Polish Ekstraliga terms and a pretty awful track. Assuming Janowski is still on the Polish team managers blacklist it will be interesting to see who the Poles go with alongside Zmarlzlik. Piotr Pawlicki surely? Kubera will surely be reserve. Woffinden & Lambert (Bewley), Sayfutindov & A Laguta (Chuganov), Lindgren & Berntzon (??), Thomsen & Madsen (??), Doyle & Fricke (Lidsey). Assume Malik, Kvech & a.n.other Czech are finishing last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Woffinden and Lambert. Lambert on his former Polish track Dan Bewley at reserve Definitely capable of top 3 result Do Britain proud in Lublin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) If it's at Lublin, Russia have to pick Grigory Laguta. His home track. Edited October 4, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 7:51 AM, racers and royals said: My guess would be Torun or Lublin Not a bad guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Col said: It was always going to be in Poland, once British Government made it impossible to stage here since that is where all the riders are based & they can get fans in. Lublin is a stupid choice though, its a small venue in Polish Ekstraliga terms and a pretty awful track. Assuming Janowski is still on the Polish team managers blacklist it will be interesting to see who the Poles go with alongside Zmarlzlik. Piotr Pawlicki surely? Kubera will surely be reserve. Woffinden & Lambert (Bewley), Sayfutindov & A Laguta (Chuganov), Lindgren & Berntzon (??), Thomsen & Madsen (??), Doyle & Fricke (Lidsey). Assume Malik, Kvech & a.n.other Czech are finishing last? Piotr Pawlicki is also banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Col said: It was always going to be in Poland, once British Government made it impossible to stage here since that is where all the riders are based & they can get fans in. Lublin is a stupid choice though, its a small venue in Polish Ekstraliga terms and a pretty awful track. Assuming Janowski is still on the Polish team managers blacklist it will be interesting to see who the Poles go with alongside Zmarlzlik. Piotr Pawlicki surely? Kubera will surely be reserve. Woffinden & Lambert (Bewley), Sayfutindov & A Laguta (Chuganov), Lindgren & Berntzon (??), Thomsen & Madsen (??), Doyle & Fricke (Lidsey). Assume Malik, Kvech & a.n.other Czech are finishing last? Chugunov can’t represent Russia surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: If it's at Lublin, Russia have to pick Grigory Laguta. His home track. RATHER than the two guys won have won it twice ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 hours ago, moomin man 76 said: You obviously don't know much about cricket then, as the sport has been played in the Netherlands for over 150yrs. The Dutch have beaten the English twice at T20 cricket. Yes they have taken advantage of fielding players born outside the Netherlands on Dutch passports, but a significant core of the team grew up and learnt their cricket in the Netherlands. It is hardly as if England hasn't taken advantage of players born elsewhere on British passports... No I don't, I'll admit that but there is a difference between cricketing countries and countries that play cricket. I would probably define a cricketing country as one that has some kind of sustained professional league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 15 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: Where else could they have held it Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, iainb said: Germany? GERMANY are not even in it ...withdrew months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: GERMANY are not even in it ...withdrew months ago Perfect then... a neutral venue for once, to determine worthy winners 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, iainb said: Perfect then... a neutral venue for once, to determine worthy winners Germany or a German promoter/club are hsrdly going to finance a meeting they aren’t in. Probably no promoter in any country would 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, iris123 said: Germany or a German promoter/club are hsrdly going to finance a meeting they aren’t in. Probably no promoter in any country would I doubt Lublin are financing the meeting either, nobody knows the financing arrangements but I would suspect BSI/IMG are underwriting the event in order to fulfil TV contracts as they probably have with the GP series playing to less than half full houses. So why not hold it in a neutral country? How many fans are being let into sporting events in Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, iainb said: I doubt Lublin are financing the meeting either, nobody knows the financing arrangements but I would suspect BSI/IMG are underwriting the event in order to fulfil TV contracts as they probably have with the GP series playing to less than half full houses. So why not hold it in a neutral country? How many fans are being let into sporting events in Germany? Why are you asking? Its in Lublin, virtually all of the riders are in Poland, there is quarantine restrictions everywhere, its not advantagous for the Poles. The Brits, Russians, Danes, Swedes, Aussies all ride in the same league as Lublin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, iainb said: I doubt Lublin are financing the meeting either, nobody knows the financing arrangements but I would suspect BSI/IMG are underwriting the event in order to fulfil TV contracts as they probably have with the GP series playing to less than half full houses. So why not hold it in a neutral country? How many fans are being let into sporting events in Germany? Think 1,000 for Güstrow Euro U19 meeting and 500 for Brokstedt junior meeting yesterday Edited October 4, 2020 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Why are you asking? Its in Lublin, virtually all of the riders are in Poland, there is quarantine restrictions everywhere, its not advantagous for the Poles. The Brits, Russians, Danes, Swedes, Aussies all ride in the same league as Lublin I'm answering PHILRISING's question of where else it could have been held and I offered Germany as an alternative, as far as I know there are no travel restrictions, they are letting crowds into football events, it's just over the border from Poland and it's a neutral venue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks123 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Chugunov can’t represent Russia surely Have to agree. Cannot be Polish to race at reserve all season in Poland and change to Russian at the end of season to race in SON (must be illegible or would have thought he would be in the world U21's) 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: RATHER than the two guys won have won it twice ... Might be a thought though (Laguta was 6th in the averages and I think it's the only meeting so far this season that Emil hasn't won at least 1 race (at Lublin)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Chugunov can’t represent Russia surely not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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