foamfence Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Najjer said: It’s interesting that he hasn’t got a gig out in Poland when the likes of Craig Cook, Charles Wright and then even riders of a similar calibre over here like Sam Masters are riding in the Polish 3rd tier this year, Brady Kurtz, Nick Morris in the past and other Australians too of similar calibre. I’m sure if they were that desperate for a ride out in Poland they could get it but probably just happy earning a living double upping in Britain He has no future, he's wooden on a bike and they can see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 19 hours ago, Midland Red said: Has there ever been a worse commentary by Pearson than tonight’s? He has offered up plenty of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Drew Kemp is eighteen, he won’t be ‘on the scrap heap’ at twenty one unless he doesn’t progress at all. You’ll have to explain to me why Steve Worrall would warrant a place or why you think he can make the grade internationally as I just don’t see it. Its also worth mentioning Anders Rowe who has based himself in Poland this year and hit himself some wonderful experience riding over there, something nowhere near enough Brits have done over the years although they can’t be blamed for making good money doubling up in the UK. Unless Kemp reches World Class by the age of 21, he will be "on the scrap heap". I think the under-21 reserve rule is a nonsense. What happens to Dan Bewley next year if Woffinden and Lambert are both fit? He's out of the side while Kemp or Rowe remain in it. Riders like Ellis and Worrall are also out of the picture. Ellis may not be fit, but if he is he showed his mettle in the GP Challenge and should have been in the side over Kemp if he was able to. But then, he still probably wouldn't have ridden last night anyway. I think this pairs system and the under-21 rule does restrict a number of good riders for taking part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Drew Kemp is eighteen, he won’t be ‘on the scrap heap’ at twenty one unless he doesn’t progress at all. You’ll have to explain to me why Steve Worrall would warrant a place or why you think he can make the grade internationally as I just don’t see it. Its also worth mentioning Anders Rowe who has based himself in Poland this year and hit himself some wonderful experience riding over there, something nowhere near enough Brits have done over the years although they can’t be blamed for making good money doubling up in the UK. What Anders Rowe has done this year is what so many young bits should have done over the years. Done it tough, up sticks and gone sink or swim in the exact way the aussies and yanks do coming to Europe. Yet in typical British speedway style he has gotten little to no recognition for what he has done. Beating proper riders out there too, and gets overlooked for the British final and SON!!! All this when only himself, Tai,Dan,Rob and and Adam Ellis were the only brits to see regular competitive racing in 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 My SON experience started last winter shortly after the tickets in Manchester went on sale. Being my first live Speedway race and also my first trip to Europe I bought the best grandstand tickets for myself and my SO (significant other) (after seventy what do you call each other in the UK?) Then the air fare, hotel room in Manchester, plans to rent a car after the races and see (practice) if we could drive on the left without incidence. We were going to head North and go along the coast into Scotland then explore our way back down to London to fly back home. Needless to say we were both very excited! Then along came the Covid and we just had to have a wait and see. Well we had our SON yesterday at 1:00 PM and as everyone has said it wasn't ideal......BUT that race with Emil getting pushed wide one second and passing Doylie up against the wall next second will always be my only memory of the race. I hate to agree with KeirStarmerFan BUT I would like to know who else could've pulled that off! So my Speedway experience and my trip to your country didn't turn out the way that I had hoped but that's the way life is, isn't it? I've been a Speedway fan for about 8 years now and that heat was one of the most exciting i can remember and I'm happy with that! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Grachan said: Unless Kemp reches World Class by the age of 21, he will be "on the scrap heap". I think the under-21 reserve rule is a nonsense. What happens to Dan Bewley next year if Woffinden and Lambert are both fit? He's out of the side while Kemp or Rowe remain in it. Riders like Ellis and Worrall are also out of the picture. Ellis may not be fit, but if he is he showed his mettle in the GP Challenge and should have been in the side over Kemp if he was able to. But then, he still probably wouldn't have ridden last night anyway. I think this pairs system and the under-21 rule does restrict a number of good riders for taking part. Understand what you are saying but I can see the format returning to the SWC version before long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, tellboy said: Pretty sure they don't have to isolate anyway,as how would Bewley,Kemp and Palin be riding Wednesday in the British U21 Final up at Berwick. Lets be honest they moved it to Poland expecting to get a crowd in and it backfired on them.If they knew they couldn't have any fans in paying the admission price they would have kept it in Manchester.You could have got two decent nights of racing on a track that can take a fair bit of the wet stuff unlike the drivel served up to us yesterday. IT was moved to Poland because nearly all the riders were there .. no doubt the NSS were happy to have their staging postponed for a season when hopefully there will be no crowd restrictions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: The European Champion Exactly. I was being sarcastic to the guy who wrote something not verty nice about Lambert. He is a superb rider for his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ARE you sure ... thought the Manchester date was always October. It was cancelled due to Covid in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Najjer said: It’s interesting that he hasn’t got a gig out in Poland when the likes of Craig Cook, Charles Wright and then even riders of a similar calibre over here like Sam Masters are riding in the Polish 3rd tier this year, Brady Kurtz, Nick Morris in the past and other Australians too of similar calibre. I’m sure if they were that desperate for a ride out in Poland they could get it but probably just happy earning a living double upping in Britain And there in lies the problem, when a rider like either of the Worralls, Charles Wright etc can earn a very decent living riding in two leagues over here why would they want to try Poland or Sweden, maybe a little to much out of their comfort zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 43 minutes ago, screm said: And there in lies the problem, when a rider like either of the Worralls, Charles Wright etc can earn a very decent living riding in two leagues over here why would they want to try Poland or Sweden, maybe a little to much out of their comfort zone. To be honest they are not really good enough for Top Tier in Poland and as Cook and others have found out even In lower divisions a bad meeting and you are out.GB really only have Woffy and Lambert at that level.Belwey has had this season in Poland and has struggled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: The only people who want teams back are the sore Polish losers. The true World Cup final of 2020 for me was that Poland v Russia Test Match at Bydgosczc - and Russia won that one, too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Bavarian said: The true World Cup final of 2020 for me was that Poland v Russia Test Match at Bydgosczc - and Russia won that one, too ! Poland were below strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: IT was moved to Poland because nearly all the riders were there .. no doubt the NSS were happy to have their staging postponed for a season when hopefully there will be no crowd restrictions. That's a pretty poor excuse for them not to hold it in Manchester. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, screm said: As mentioned Jack Holder was in the original team, hopefully we will find out the reason why he refused his team place. not at Torun? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 The Worralls have both raced in Poland's League 2 in recent years with reasonable success. I think it was for Rawicz. They missed this season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mark said: Poland were below strength. Who Poland pick is up to their manager and federation. On yesterday's track, Janowski would have been awful. He chickens out when the going gets tough. Edited October 18, 2020 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, screm said: And there in lies the problem, when a rider like either of the Worralls, Charles Wright etc can earn a very decent living riding in two leagues over here why would they want to try Poland or Sweden, maybe a little to much out of their comfort zone. Scrap doubling up. Improve the standard of our riders by putting them out of their comfort zone and improve the quality of the product here by not having riders with more clubs than Tiger Woods. I like it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: The Worralls have both raced in Poland's League 2 in recent years with reasonable success. I think it was for Rawicz. They missed this season though. Ritchie: http://www.zuzel.ugu.pl/index.php?profil=2885&tab=1 Steve: http://www.zuzel.ugu.pl/index.php?profil=3010&tab=1 Neither rode in Poland in 2019 or '20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, KeirStarmerFan said: Who Poland pick is up to their manager and federation. On yesterday's track, Janowski would have been awful. He chickens out when the going gets tough. . You have had a good year with trolling. Come back in 2021 with some more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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