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21 minutes ago, gazzac said:

Devalues the cup, always thought it was the second best thing to win after the league, if it's so obviously manipuated from word go, who's to say the final might have been Poole vs Eastbourne if the draw was a proper draw and left alone, so whoever wins they may not have done if left unmanipulated.

To be fair, with the sport allowing all riders to ride on an adhoc basis for any team, at any given moment, the changing of a draw won't devalue any competition too much..

Given the low level of kudos, publicity and financial reward in winning any Speedway title, saving money on travel whilst facilitating more 'local' derbies, which may produce larger crowds than riding against a team from hundreds of miles away, seems to be a sensible decision...

 

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If the reason it was done is Geographic then all the rest of the ties should be changed to be consistent. look at Glasgow they have to go to Somerset, thats not just a wee drive in the country. 

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1 hour ago, screm said:

The fact that the KOC draw has been tampered with at all just shows the amateurish mess we are in at times.

If it's the way to go  teams should start picking opponents for next season, it'll save having to mess about doing a draw. Cup winners could grab any byes.

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34 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

If it's the way to go  teams should start picking opponents for next season, it'll save having to mess about doing a draw. Cup winners could grab any byes.

So its........

First round

Berwick v Newcastle

Edinburgh v Glasgow

Scunthorpe v Redcar

Eastbourne v Poole

Second round

Berwick/Newcastle v Leicester

Edinburgh/Glasgow v Birmingham

Scunthorpe/Redcar v Kent

Eastbourne/Poole v Somerset

Season after season

 

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1 minute ago, screm said:

So its........

First round

Berwick v Newcastle

Edinburgh v Glasgow

Scunthorpe v Redcar

Eastbourne v Poole

Second round

Berwick/Newcastle v Leicester

Edinburgh/Glasgow v Birmingham

Scunthorpe/Redcar v Kent

Eastbourne/Poole v Somerset

Season after season

 

Could be, but the wise one's might just try and pick Newcastle or Berwick for an easy option and go mad with the petrol money ;)

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47 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

If it's the way to go  teams should start picking opponents for next season, it'll save having to mess about doing a draw. Cup winners could grab any byes.

Agreed,

And If some meetings are going to be guaranteed "loss makers" then they could just play 'rock, papers and scissors' instead to decide who goes through..

The positives are no loss making meetings. And the Cup could be done and dusted well before the cold nights of October..

Obviously it would be better to play 'rock, paper, scissors' in person rather than over the phone, to maintain the sports high reputation for integrity and credibility, (and make it more exciting) which will incur some travelling costs for the relevant team managers, but overall it would be a positive move forward for me..

Maybe even dip their toe in technology and use Skype and stream the 'matches' around the country to the thousands awaiting the results with baited breath?

NB Best of Three home and away on the 'rock, paper scissors'..

No Tac Sub for double points if behind..

No guest 'rocks, papers, or scissors' allowed.

 

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4 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Agreed,

And If some meetings are going to be guaranteed "loss makers" then they could just play 'rock, papers and scissors' instead to decide who goes through..

The positives are no loss making meetings. And the Cup could be done and dusted well before the cold nights of October..

Obviously it would be better to play 'rock, paper, scissors' in person rather than over the phone, to maintain the sports high reputation for integrity and credibility, (and make it more exciting) which will incur some travelling costs for the relevant team managers, but overall it would be a positive move forward for me..

Maybe even dip their toe in technology and use Skype and stream the 'matches' around the country to the thousands awaiting the results with baited breath?

 

Quartz, Parchment, Shears is an evil game.

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Why call it a "draw" in the first place, us fans aren't stupid a draw is when names are put into a hat/container and picked at random and we all know these meetings are mostly arranged/sorted out, and guess what apparently Poole now get a 'buy' funny that!

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8 minutes ago, hammer1969 said:

Why call it a "draw" in the first place, us fans aren't stupid a draw is when names are put into a hat/container and picked at random and we all know these meetings are mostly arranged/sorted out, and guess what apparently Poole now get a 'buy' funny that!

do you think a bye is an advantage "hammer" surely its a missed opportunity for the club and riders to earn more,as a supporter i would prefer the extra meeting 

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