stevebrum Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 10 hours ago, geoff58 said: Think you better read it proper no mocking just asking a question and the grandstand was told to the fans it was on storage in Wales !! I have evensaid good luck in post so read it again proper ‘Looking forward to visiting the infamous toilets on back straight again in 2020 lol keep us informed.’ sounds mocking to me. Anyway Manchester delivered, so no reason why Swindon won’t do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, stevebrum said: ‘Looking forward to visiting the infamous toilets on back straight again in 2020 lol keep us informed.’ sounds mocking to me. Anyway Manchester delivered, so no reason why Swindon won’t do the same. Manchester wasn't built by Gaming International. Check the latter's record of false promises and abject failure to deliver on promises, especiually in Reading and Milton Keynes. The NSS was a totally different case - backing from the city council plus Manchester City through their local sport initiative is a rather different scenario to a company with a record of fine words and zero action in far too many cases. They've even spread into football with Torquay United. They own the club and immediately promised to demolish Plainmoor and move the club to a new stadium. They promised, they promised.....then said it wasn't going to happen. https://www.devonlive.com/sport/football/football-news/torquay-united-scrap-plans-new-3412818 I'd love them to build the new stadium but it would be foolish not to keep a very close eye on these people given their shocking record under various names. Edited December 11, 2019 by RobMcCaffery 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Manchester wasn't built by Gaming International. Check the latter's record of false promises and abject failure to deliver on promises, especiually in Reading and Milton Keynes. The NSS was a totally different case - backing from the city council plus Manchester City through their local sport initiative is a rather different scenario to a company with a record of fine words and zero action in far too many cases. They've even spread into football with Torquay United. They own the club and immediately promised to demolish Plainmoor and move the club to a new stadium. They promised, they promised.....then said it wasn't going to happen. https://www.devonlive.com/sport/football/football-news/torquay-united-scrap-plans-new-3412818 I'd love them to build the new stadium but it would be foolish not to keep a very close eye on these people given their shocking record under various names. Only because stupid Councils do not force them to build the new facilities before they are allowed to demolish or close what they have bought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, A ORLOV said: Only because stupid Councils do not force them to build the new facilities before they are allowed to demolish or close what they have bought. Either way, they tend to get what they want, and it doesn't usually match the words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: that was tounge in cheek don't think even the hardest swindon fan can deny they are disgusting !! and any away fan that has visited the Abbey !! anyway doubt anything will be done for next season just have to put up with them for now ?? So you got all the correct letters but not necessarily in the correct order!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said: Manchester wasn't built by Gaming International. Check the latter's record of false promises and abject failure to deliver on promises, especiually in Reading and Milton Keynes. The NSS was a totally different case - backing from the city council plus Manchester City through their local sport initiative is a rather different scenario to a company with a record of fine words and zero action in far too many cases. They've even spread into football with Torquay United. They own the club and immediately promised to demolish Plainmoor and move the club to a new stadium. They promised, they promised.....then said it wasn't going to happen. https://www.devonlive.com/sport/football/football-news/torquay-united-scrap-plans-new-3412818 I'd love them to build the new stadium but it would be foolish not to keep a very close eye on these people given their shocking record under various names. Apologies, perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I was comparing only the parallel that work promised will be delivered. Obviously the NSS was a completely different ball game I get that. Its just when people try to question if what was provided as correct information is actually correct. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. I know we are talking about different companies however note the caution of these people because of previous track records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 hours ago, geoff58 said: that was tounge in cheek don't think even the hardest swindon fan can't deny they are disgusting !! and any away fan that has visited the Abbey !! anyway doubt anything will be done for next season just have to put up with them for now ?? For the record, they are infamously disgusting, and have pretty much remained the same standard as when I first started attending at Blunsdon some 40 odd years ago. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, EnglishRoundabout said: For the record, they are infamously disgusting, and have pretty much remained the same standard as when I first started attending at Blunsdon some 40 odd years ago. Nuff said. Totally agree not a pleasant place. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, stevebrum said: Apologies, perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I was comparing only the parallel that work promised will be delivered. Obviously the NSS was a completely different ball game I get that. Its just when people try to question if what was provided as correct information is actually correct. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. I know we are talking about different companies however note the caution of these people because of previous track records. Thanks for the clarification. The debate about the NSS pre-opening was pretty ill-informed on many levels, and coloured by naked jealousy from some fans that a track in Manchester could dare to carry the title National Speedway Stadium. In most situations like these there is a chance that they will be fulfilled, and equally a chance that they will not, which is why, as surely if you were trying to pick a winner in a race, you have to study 'form'. Having said that there's no reason why an appalling record can't change. I hope so much that in Swindon's case it does. It's a great set-up with a good fan base and a superb record of continuity in the sport. It would be another cruel blow to lose it, and we've had far too many of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 When your dying for a p*ss after a few pints you don't care believe me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Thanks for the clarification. The debate about the NSS pre-opening was pretty ill-informed on many levels, and coloured by naked jealousy from some fans that a track in Manchester could dare to carry the title National Speedway Stadium. In most situations like these there is a chance that they will be fulfilled, and equally a chance that they will not, which is why, as surely if you were trying to pick a winner in a race, you have to study 'form'. Having said that there's no reason why an appalling record can't change. I hope so much that in Swindon's case it does. It's a great set-up with a good fan base and a superb record of continuity in the sport. It would be another cruel blow to lose it, and we've had far too many of those. No worries. It will be a great shame if they let Swindon down but we have to believe they will deliver as promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: When your dying for a p*ss after a few pints you don't care believe me! Rumour has it Hagon, that some never reappear having gone in there though. Now that is scary!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, EnglishRoundabout said: Rumour has it Hagon, that some never reappear having gone in there though. Now that is scary!! When i first went ER there was a cheap/ Expensive side at Swindon you could not go through the gate to the starting gate side until about heat 9.Those legendary toilets have not changed in all that time minging and at times you need wellies to enter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: When i first went ER there was a cheap/ Expensive side at Swindon you could not go through the gate to the starting gate side until about heat 9.Those legendary toilets have not changed in all that time minging and at times you need wellies to enter. I remember those days Sid. I wasn’t aware that the gate separating the starting gate side from the back straight opened mid meeting. I recall being told it was expensive to stand near the starting gate. I used to look across from the back straight, longing for the day when I could afford to stand there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, EnglishRoundabout said: I remember those days Sid. I wasn’t aware that the gate separating the starting gate side from the back straight opened mid meeting. I recall being told it was expensive to stand near the starting gate. I used to look across from the back straight, longing for the day when I could afford to stand there!! The funny thing is ER i longed to watch it from the starting gate, and when i first did it it seemed a disappointment i much prefer watching from bend 2 just past the burger van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I think we had that at Dudley Wood for a bit as well. Paying extra to stand the tapes side that is not the toilets. Then again Dudley Wood wasn't the poshest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, bruno said: I think we had that at Dudley Wood for a bit as well. Paying extra to stand the tapes side that is not the toilets. Then again Dudley Wood wasn't the poshest. Good track though Bruno, i always thought it was a tough test for a visiting rider who maybe only rode there once a year.l can remember once going there in 1980??? against Swindon on a bank holiday it was a 11 oclock start the Grahame/ Collins partnership over that period were superb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 22 hours ago, geoff58 said: that was tounge in cheek don't think even the hardest swindon fan can't deny they are disgusting !! and any away fan that has visited the Abbey !! anyway doubt anything will be done for next season just have to put up with them for now ?? The only person to enjoy those toilets was SCB. He's used to the smell and got some images to take home and enjoy too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65Sarge Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) I just remember Dudley Wood having a ‘pork’ van which sold the best pork scratchings/crackling I have ever tasted :-) Edited December 12, 2019 by 65Sarge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The only person to enjoy those toilets was SCB. He's used to the smell and got some images to take home and enjoy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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