Bagpuss Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 hours ago, acef said: I'm afraid it will be. Unless Ipswich can convince NKI it's going to be a very easy top 4 to call. We shall see. Let revisit this conversation in August / September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/7/2019 at 11:53 PM, acef said: I don't think it's that with Swindon. You just know they will make a change at some point that will make up the point deficit because no way is that tail winning a title. That's the only reason I'm backing them for the league because that top 4 with one addition and it's game over It's how Swindon operate. They have not always made changes Acef ?? last year people forget Musielak had a bad injury( and came back to early).We got in Bellego for a short term to cover and Lampard was replaced only because we were getting problems with his polish club.This year on the face of it we look a lot weaker with Perks,Stewart,Rowe but for me for this side to work the top four have to be on it most weeks the other three have to improve as the season goes along and contribute but as you say there is scope for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: They have not always made changes Acef ?? last year people forget Musielak had a bad injury( and came back to early).We got in Bellego for a short term to cover and Lampard was replaced only because we were getting problems with his polish club.This year on the face of it we look a lot weaker with Perks,Stewart,Rowe but for me for this side to work the top four have to be on it most weeks the other three have to improve as the season goes along and contribute but as you say there is scope for a change. Had Tobi stayed fit then no changes would have been needed, although I still think you'd have got Jensen. This year is different with a longer tail and I fully expect that Alun will make at least 1 change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, acef said: Had Tobi stayed fit then no changes would have been needed, although I still think you'd have got Jensen. This year is different with a longer tail and I fully expect that Alun will make at least 1 change. Swindon’s 2020 starting team is probably on a par with the 2019 starting team: Doyle. Doyle Stewart. Lampart Jensen. Musielak Ellis. Ellis Batchelor Batchelor Perks Wajtknecht Rowe. Shanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC2 said: Swindon’s 2020 starting team is probably on a par with the 2019 starting team: Doyle. Doyle Stewart. Lampart Jensen. Musielak Ellis. Ellis Batchelor Batchelor Perks Wajtknecht Rowe. Shanes For me this years side has youth on its side plenty of longterm potential in the team and it should improve as the season goes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: For me this years side has youth on its side plenty of longterm potential in the team and it should improve as the season goes along. Hmmm. Perks achieved only 3.57 in the PL this year and Stewart and Rowe were well below him in the CL so your expectations may be high. All three will need much better equipment and they will do well to average 3 Rowe, 4.5 Stewart and 4.5 Perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, DC2 said: Hmmm. Perks achieved only 3.57 in the PL this year and Stewart and Rowe were well below him in the CL so your expectations may be high. All three will need much better equipment and they will do well to average 3 Rowe, 4.5 Stewart and 4.5 Perks. Apparently Anders has 6 new Ashtech engines lined up. Ellis does need faster engines as well, maybe he and Stewart can raise some money to buy any of Jasons 2019 engines that he is no doubt changing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Apparently Anders has 6 new Ashtech engines lined up. Ellis does need faster engines as well, maybe he and Stewart can raise some money to buy any of Jasons 2019 engines that he is no doubt changing. Look at Claus Vissing, an 8.43 CL rider, who rode ten matches for Swindon, seven at home, and still ended up with only a 3.4 average for this year. And Ryan Douglas, an 8.31 CL rider and everyone’s favourite, but he achieved only 4.66 from 15 matches for Wolves. Perks was the best of our three on 6.4 CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, DC2 said: Look at Claus Vissing, an 8.43 CL rider, who rode ten matches for Swindon, seven at home, and still ended up with only a 3.4 average for this year. And Ryan Douglas, an 8.31 CL rider and everyone’s favourite, but he achieved only 4.66 from 15 matches for Wolves. Perks was the best of our three on 6.4 CL. Yet many claim there’s no difference between the two leagues! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, DC2 said: Swindon’s 2020 starting team is probably on a par with the 2019 starting team: Doyle. Doyle Stewart. Lampart Jensen. Musielak Ellis. Ellis Batchelor Batchelor Perks Wajtknecht Rowe. Shanes Don't agree. I think Perks and Rowe are much better riders than Zak and James. Lampart was always going to be useless and whilst Stewart is unproven I fully expect him to do a better job than the pole did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, DC2 said: Hmmm. Perks achieved only 3.57 in the PL this year and Stewart and Rowe were well below him in the CL so your expectations may be high. All three will need much better equipment and they will do well to average 3 Rowe, 4.5 Stewart and 4.5 Perks. Perks last year rode alot better than his average suggests and all the fans could see the passion and effort that he put in.Also those three i suggest are better options than Wells who you suggested who last year was dreadful and is on the slide.Stewart looks like he can be a fans favourite improve and most fans on the forum have mentioned him as a real good option to most sides.Grachan mentioned this the other week on the thread DC2 that it is like you want Swindon to fail???. You were critical last year moaning about the bottom end of the side yet they won the double and you were one who still never give the team the credit it was due. Edited December 9, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, acef said: Don't agree. I think Perks and Rowe are much better riders than Zak and James. Lampart was always going to be useless and whilst Stewart is unproven I fully expect him to do a better job than the pole did. Perks and Rowe might be a better pair.....but Rowe is nowhere near as good as Shanes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 48 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Perks last year rode alot better than his average suggests and all the fans could see the passion and effort that he put in.Also those three i suggest are better options than Wells who you suggested who last year was dreadful and is on the slide.Stewart looks like he can be a fans favourite improve and most fans on the forum have mentioned him as a real good option to most sides.Grachan mentioned this the other week on the thread DC2 that it is like you want Swindon to fail???. You were critical last year moaning about the bottom end of the side yet they won the double and you were one who still never give the team the credit it was due. Scotty fan ( Poole fan) is a bit like DC2 is towards Poole Sidders. You actually wonder if they are fans of their clubs, or just enjoy it when we/they fail. Extraordinary attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, EnglishRoundabout said: Scotty fan ( Poole fan) is a bit like DC2 is towards Poole Sidders. You actually wonder if they are fans of their clubs, or just enjoy it when we/they fail. Extraordinary attitude. I’m a Swindon fan, stating my view. I’m trying to be objective. If better choices regarding team building occur to me I’ll point them out. Forums are for good mannered discussion, not towing the party line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Perks and Rowe might be a better pair.....but Rowe is nowhere near as good as Shanes! Is a zero point return any worse than a zero point return? I don't expect Rowe to be there at the business end of the season. No criticism of him, but I think we'll see a replacement once the team average drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 hours ago, DC2 said: I’m a Swindon fan, stating my view. I’m trying to be objective. If better choices regarding team building occur to me I’ll point them out. Forums are for good mannered discussion, not towing the party line. Team building Wells in a top 5?? ??? you are totally right though you are entitled to your opinion.My only gripe is you never give the team and management the credit they were due when they won the double achieveing something you were convinced they were not capable of..For me every season is a new challenge there will be good/bad over a period but if you had told me that we would of won three title's since 2010 that is something i would never of dreamed possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 hours ago, DC2 said: I’m a Swindon fan, stating my view. I’m trying to be objective. If better choices regarding team building occur to me I’ll point them out. Forums are for good mannered discussion, not towing the party line. Yes, I agree with you and you are right, forums are indeed a place for discussion and debate. I just feel that your posts are often tinged with negativity about Swindon, team building and Rosco. In the current era, we have a winning team that have won 3 titles and a cup. Surely it’s time to rejoice and be positive! I have been going to Blunsdon since the early 70’s supporting the team home and away for quite a few seasons. Apart from a few close finishes, we’ve never looked like winning the title, especially in the 70’s. We are still at Blunsdon and surviving as a club. Looks like another competitive team has been built again with the best rider in the league as our number one. Happy days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, EnglishRoundabout said: Yes, I agree with you and you are right, forums are indeed a place for discussion and debate. I just feel that your posts are often tinged with negativity about Swindon, team building and Rosco. In the current era, we have a winning team that have won 3 titles and a cup. Surely it’s time to rejoice and be positive! I have been going to Blunsdon since the early 70’s supporting the team home and away for quite a few seasons. Apart from a few close finishes, we’ve never looked like winning the title, especially in the 70’s. We are still at Blunsdon and surviving as a club. Looks like another competitive team has been built again with the best rider in the league as our number one. Happy days! You like myself ER must pinch yourself on how the success on the track has panned out over the last decade.For me winning is great but it is not everything it is not my number one priority enjoying the night out is.Last year the racing generally was very good the track is improving week on week with different lines appearing.In Alun / Lee we have a great management team who have raised the bar at the club and last year was the first year for quite a while that i had looked forward to a Thursday racenight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: any news on re-vamped stadium ? is the grandstand still in storage in wales ?? must be costing a fortune in storage fees ??? or was that a little porky pie ? The planning meeting scheduled for today was cancelled, but there was no mention of any info on the stadium on the agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, geoff58 said: its becoming a soap opera i guess it will be no change again at the Abbey next season ?? it would be nice to let you fans if the storage thing was a hoax ?? or is it fact ?? because storage fees have to be paid ? unless stadia uk are paying it? after all its their stadium & their responsibility for re-furb ?? anyway good luck hope it falls in place for you its tough getting conditions of a council we should know lol NSS but m/cr council were great with us !! look forward to visiting the infamous toilets on back straight again in 2020 lol keep us informed If there was ever a new facility that nobody believed would happen it was the NSS. These things take time just like it did in Manchester. Mocking about it is in very poor taste given how long the Aces pair were laughed at for suggesting it would happen. still, each to their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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