orion Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, thecoombdog said: I just looked at their website. Wow f*cking wee. What a p*ss take that is. Lists the clubs Osborne was involved in and they all are defunct!!! Some absolute comedy there on a bad day. I think that confirms that Tr paid off for stepping aside..Why would Osbornne be involved in finding another site ? Makes no sense..The whole deal is bent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: Get that to a degree, but... Many of the teams now defunct are in medium sized towns and cities and were able once to deliver a sizeable proportion of the local populace to attend each week.. Meaning they had influence... Those who run the sport over the past 3 decades have destroyed their very own fan base in lots of areas... 5000+ a week at these tracks and many would have stayed open.. I would suggest that there are considerably more fans of the sport, (like me), who cannot take it seriously, and therefore dont attend regularly, than those who do.. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more on here who dont regularly attend than those who do.. But are still ultra passionate fans of the sport, willing to spend plenty to watch it (when done properly), here and overseas, but dont see UK Speedway worthy of their regular patronage.. That is not the fault of any housing developer... Which is why I added "business parks"... Let's look though: what is on the site of Plough Lane? Housing... what is on the site of the County Ground? Housing... what is on the site of Custom House? Housing... what is on the site of Kingsmead? Housing... what is on the site of Groveway stadium? Housing... what is on the site of Harringay stadium? Housing and Sainsbury's... what will be on the site of Abbey Stadium? Housing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, chunky said: Which is why I added "business parks"... Let's look though: what is on the site of Plough Lane? Housing... what is on the site of the County Ground? Housing... what is on the site of Custom House? Housing... what is on the site of Kingsmead? Housing... what is on the site of Groveway stadium? Housing... what is on the site of Harringay stadium? Housing and Sainsbury's... what will be on the site of Abbey Stadium? Housing... Plough Lane- mainly a football ground Reading - F all !!!! Edited September 28, 2022 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, orion said: I think that confirms that Tr paid off for stepping aside..Why would Osbornne be involved in finding another site ? Makes no sense..The whole deal is bent It's the final insult after years of lies. If people get their hopes up for a new site now then there is no hope for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, orion said: I think that confirms that Tr paid off for stepping aside..Why would Osbornne be involved in finding another site ? Makes no sense..The whole deal is bent Must have been some left over brown envelopes from the sky era 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Speedway teams relying on greyhound racing have no future. Far better for speedway to decouple from greyhound racing especially as Dogs Trust, the RSPCA and the Blue Cross did a joint press release yesterday calling for a nationwide ban on greyhound racing within five years. (This has been some time coming.) I found the snippet from the minutes of the BSPA meeting in the Twitter feed of a greyhound trainer in Ireland. I was surprised the news hadn’t made its way into the public domain already. I hope the speedway team manages to find another venue although I saw above that the company mentioned in the press release had only been set up today and it has Clark Osborne as a director. If that‘s true, then I don’t hold out much hope for it as anything that Osborne is involved with turns to houses. He is a director of tens of companies and most of them seem to be dormant. Perhaps the fans need to take control and approach the council for help? It was the council who stipulated that the site couldn’t be redeveloped until the stadium was refurbished and they have not held GI to this condition. The Dogs Trust press release is here: https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/how-we-help/the-future/cut-the-chase Pleaae do not (metaphorically) throw rotten veg at me. Our group always supported the speedway team but not the greyhound racing. Edited September 28, 2022 by JessicaJones 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, mikebv said: Get that to a degree, but... Many of the teams now defunct are in medium sized towns and cities and were able once to deliver a sizeable proportion of the local populace to attend each week.. Meaning they had influence... Those who run the sport over the past 3 decades have destroyed their very own fan base in lots of areas... 5000+ a week at these tracks and many would have stayed open.. I would suggest that there are considerably more fans of the sport, (like me), who cannot take it seriously, and therefore dont attend regularly, than those who do.. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more on here who dont regularly attend than those who do.. But are still ultra passionate fans of the sport, willing to spend plenty to watch it (when done properly), here and overseas, but dont see UK Speedway worthy of their regular patronage.. That is not the fault of any housing developer... Spot on. If the sport had a bigger fan base & a higher profile then some of these tracks wouldn't have closed & there would have been more of a fight to keeps the ones that have opened or relocated elsewhere. When you're a developer who wants to build on a site used by a few hundred people for half a year that are involved in an event that has no profile it's very easy to get what you want. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, JessicaJones said: Speedway teams relying on greyhound racing have no future. Far better for speedway to decouple from greyhound racing especially as Dogs Trust, the RSPCA and the Blue Cross did a joint press release yesterday calling for a nationwide ban on greyhound racing within five years. (This has been some time coming.) I found the snippet from the minutes of the BSPA meeting in the Twitter feed of a greyhound trainer in Ireland. I was surprised the news hadn’t made its way into the public domain already. I hope the speedway team manages to find another venue although I saw above that the company mentioned in the press release had only been set up today and it has Clark Osborne has a director. If that‘s true, then I don’t hold out much hope for it as anything that Osborne is involved with turns to houses. He is a director of tens of companies and most of them seem to be dormant. Perhaps the fans need to take control and approach the council for help? It was the council who stipulated that the site couldn’t be redeveloped until the stadium was refurbished and they have not held GI to this condition. The Dogs Trust press release is here: https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/how-we-help/the-future/cut-the-chase Pleaae do not (metaphorically) throw rotten veg at me. Our group always supported the speedway team but not the greyhound racing. To be honest, I expect that if you hadn't posted it then it still wouldn't have made its way into the public domain. Because you put that here, they had no choice but to announce it. I'm assuming that the snippet that you posted was from 30 August judging by the numbers at the top. That's a week before they started moving the crates out of the car park and saying that reports of the end of Greyhound Racing at the Abbey were not true. Once you made that post and people became aware of it, they had to make the announcement. It's quite shocking that we had to hear it from you rather than anyone involved with speedway - either the club or the BSPA. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Grachan said: To be honest, I expect that if you hadn't posted it then it still wouldn't have made its way into the public domain. Because you put that here, they had no choice but to announce it. I'm assuming that the snippet that you posted was from 30 August judging by the numbers at the top. That's a week before they started moving the crates out of the car park and saying that reports of the end of Greyhound Racing at the Abbey were not true. Once you made that post and people became aware of it, they had to make the announcement. It's quite shocking that we had to hear it from you rather than anyone involved with speedway - either the club or the BSPA. Yes, the speedway management should have been open about it from before they went to that BSPA meeting. I found that snippet purely by chance. I phoned my contact at the Adver today and he chased it up which may have forced the press release. It is now in the Swindon Advertiser. Since I researched the history of Gaming International, I thought it highly unlikely that the stadium would ever get redeveloped. And that, coupled with the growing unpopularity of greyhound racing, made me even more convinced. But every time I came on here to say, I was very unpopular….I debated whether to post that snippet at all because every post I have made got shot down in flames! https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/22808306.abbey-stadium-closes-doors-swindon-speedway/#comments-anchor Edited September 28, 2022 by JessicaJones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Grachan said: To be honest, I expect that if you hadn't posted it then it still wouldn't have made its way into the public domain. Because you put that here, they had no choice but to announce it. I'm assuming that the snippet that you posted was from 30 August judging by the numbers at the top. That's a week before they started moving the crates out of the car park and saying that reports of the end of Greyhound Racing at the Abbey were not true. Once you made that post and people became aware of it, they had to make the announcement. It's quite shocking that we had to hear it from you rather than anyone involved with speedway - either the club or the BSPA. Why is it shocking ? How long have you been around speedway ? The bspl and it’s members dont give a damn about fans, the sport in this country is where it is because of crap like this, fans are the be all of the sport and are treated like dog dirt, the way the Swindon fans have been treated since they closed is disgusting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablo Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Sad day for all the Swindon fans after being strung along for years & I’m afraid I don’t see the robins returning elsewhere now. Really worrying times for British Speedway with Edinburgh gone also & a few more clubs on life support for 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Why is it shocking ? How long have you been around speedway ? The bspl and it’s members dont give a damn about fans, the sport in this country is where it is because of crap like this, fans are the be all of the sport and are treated like dog dirt, the way the Swindon fans have been treated since they closed is disgusting Probably shocking because I came on here as a representative from the anti greyhound racing campaign asking to work with the speedway team to get the stadium redeveloped without the greyhound racing. I am not involved with the speedway campaign at all. I was told to sling my hook pretty much. So I can understand why someone is surprised that it came from me rather than someone involved with speedway. Edited September 28, 2022 by JessicaJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 https://swindonmotorsports.co.uk/vision-and-mission Parody or the final insult??!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Along with many others on here it felt inevitable for years. Still a sad day though! Started going there at 18months old before Newport opened and met some brilliant people that I’ll probably never see again! Thursday nights under the lights will be a cherished memory. Glad I got to go back with my old man and brother before it went as we’d never all been at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Don’t forget Eastvile (Bristol Bulldogs) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42958113 when it was sold to Ikea! Plus Poole who come under the Stadia UK banner! https://www.poolestadium.co.uk/ How long will it be before Poole will have to miss a season whilst the Stadium is being developed only to never return. Edited September 28, 2022 by a4poster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaJones Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, frigbo said: https://swindonmotorsports.co.uk/vision-and-mission Parody or the final insult??!! My guess is that that’s for purposes of defending themselves against the breach of planning condition that stipulated they couldn’t build another house until the stadium was refurbished (I was at that council meeting). I wouldn’t believe a word Clark Osborne says (sorry). They’ll come up with some reason why they couldn’t rebuild the Abbey Stadium and will claim to be trying to find another site. Don’t hold your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, frigbo said: https://swindonmotorsports.co.uk/vision-and-mission Parody or the final insult??!! Insult. I'd file that under bulls*it unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, racers and royals said: Reading - F all !!!! Unfortunately, there are still quite a few like that - and it REALLY doesn't make sense... Edited September 28, 2022 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Rosco Kilby involved in this company..its like a Monty Python sketch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvcjk Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Another sad day for British Speedway and another iconic stadium closed. Condolences to all Swindon fans. I feel the only way forward for the sport and clubs in this country is to build their own facilities. Let’s hope Swindon can find some land soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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