B.V 72 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, theblueboy said: As Grachan has identified, Anders was beating established riders such as Cook, Schlein and Worrall towards the end of the season. Surely beating seasoned Championship riders is a benchmark that shows he is on the up. Plus it’s not like he hasn’t ridden Swindon’s track much either. I’d like to think JD, Batch and Rasmus will give him a hand with bike set ups. Anders could be anything and on a 3 I think is worth the gamble but one thing is for sure, and no disrespect to the lad at all, but he would appear to be miles ahead of Jack Smith at this stage of his career. The year Smith was with Swindon he ended up with a National league average of 8.41 Rowe joins you on a National league average of 8.37 and in my opinion in a weaker national league than 2018 so no theres not a lot of difference in the 2 when they signed for Swindon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) This is a good discussion, lots of decent points. The bottom line is that nobody knows how this young lad will do, the jury is out. There has been good evidence from both sides of the argument. Yes he is extremely inexperienced but in his favour his development has been rapid. Will be fascinating to see how he does in both leagues in 2020. Edited December 2, 2019 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I see Ander's Dad knows his stuff having been on the spanners for Zagar and others. He has 6 good Ashtech motors as well, and they don't come cheap. He must have some good backing and equipment. That's a big help this day and age., but of course as we all know, he has to ride the bikes, and he is inexperienced. With his Dad spannering for him, he will be able to keep a close eye on him, and no doubt advising him. It's probably is a season early, but as long as he has a sensible head on his shoulders and a good team around him, who are honest with him and won't let him go on to long like Jack Smith did, if he does find it to hard, I don't think it will do him any harm to give it a go as long as he realises he is very young and if he isn't enjoying it, take a step back from the PL, it's not the end of the world, gain a bit more experience and try again in a season or two. Wish the young man all the best for 2020 season and beyond. Will be keeping an eye out to see how he's doing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Jack Smith had a handy spannerman too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiahOfTheBSF Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Anders Rowe will get sacked once Rasmus Jensen's average drops. How much do you want to bet on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, Rockstar99 said: Anders Rowe will get sacked once Rasmus Jensen's average drops. How much do you want to bet on it? I've had similar thoughts, I just hope Anders takes his chance. If he's not ready then nothing has really been lost due to his age and he's gained experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, hagonshocker said: Hmmm quite possibly/probably That would be weird. With Perks on 3.48 and us having about 4.08 left if we sign Adam Ellis there’s no way Perks should be in the 1-5. Stefan Nielsen on 3.71 is the minimum we should expect (or Jordan Stewart on about 3.59 if he’s not saddled with the 4 foreign minimum). As long as it’s not Mikkel B Andersen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Tom Brennan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 hours ago, DC2 said: Oh god. Do I have to say this? Spot on, Steve. It wasn’t hard was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, B.V 72 said: The year Smith was with Swindon he ended up with a National league average of 8.41 Rowe joins you on a National league average of 8.37 and in my opinion in a weaker national league than 2018 so no theres not a lot of difference in the 2 when they signed for Swindon. Rowe is a better rider than Smith at the same stage BK in my opinion technically better and if you look back Smith regressed badly ..He had endless chances at Championship level and never made it Rowe is on a progressive path now a tough few years ahead for him but he is a determined lad. Edited December 2, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, foreverblue said: Yes nobody minds giving riders a chance but he is too young, he should have done another year at the lower level first. The problem is it doesn't do the rider any good and may take him a while to get his confidence back. I think the opposite he has pushed for this chance maybe it is to early but the experience he will gain will be invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Good signing that will be a popular one with the fans ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, B.V 72 said: The year Smith was with Swindon he ended up with a National league average of 8.41 Rowe joins you on a National league average of 8.37 and in my opinion in a weaker national league than 2018 so no theres not a lot of difference in the 2 when they signed for Swindon. In average terms possibly, in real terms a huge gulf. As I said, it’s no reflection on Jack Smith (JS) but Anders Rowe (AR) rode as second string for 2 and a bit months at Somerset, doing extremely well for a 17 year old. I cannot remember JS riding to that standard at any time. That suggests to me that despite the relative similarity in averages AR is already ahead of JS and is progressive. Its a big ask but he sounds grounded, clearly has some decent equipment and 4 decent riders to tap into for advice. What’s not to like? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Sam Jensen is another possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, DC2 said: Sam Jensen is another possible. Another possible for what? I'm sure I read elsewhere you'd said he was unconvincing as a Championship reserve? Another one with plenty of potential, but he'd be on a 4 point average in the Premiership so would start in our main body. I guess we'll wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 11/28/2019 at 9:33 PM, DC2 said: All three of these appear to be PL 4 pointers: Wells 7.05 CL, Jordan Stewart 5.74 CL, Jonas Jeppesen has never achieved an average. You may take the view that the bottom two are young improvers that will be more successful than Lampart in making their mark in the 1 to 5, but I think Wells is the better bet. Having said that, I’d be happy if we got either of the youngsters as an asset. Out of the names mentioned so far assuming Adam is coming back then I’d go with Justin Sedgeman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 50 minutes ago, Crazy robin said: Out of the names mentioned so far assuming Adam is coming back then I’d go with Justin Sedgeman. Or Jeppesen if averages fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Reliant Robin said: Another possible for what? I'm sure I read elsewhere you'd said he was unconvincing as a Championship reserve? Another one with plenty of potential, but he'd be on a 4 point average in the Premiership so would start in our main body. I guess we'll wait and see For the final signing. If we sign Adam Ellis we’ll have about 4.08 left. Wells, Jeppesen, Jordan Stewart, Sedgmen, Stefan Nielsen and Sam Jensen all fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Rowe is a better rider than Smith at the same stage BK in my opinion technically better and if you look back Smith regressed badly ..He had endless chances at Championship level and never made it Rowe is on a progressive path now a tough few years ahead for him but he is a determined lad. I agree with that. Smith has made little impact in the CL over the last three years, barely averaging above 3 at any point, but did his year at Swindon set him back? Quite probably. Without that experience he might be a 4 point CL rider by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, DC2 said: I agree with that. Smith has made little impact in the CL over the last three years, barely averaging above 3 at any point, but did his year at Swindon set him back? Quite probably. Without that experience he might be a 4 point CL rider by now. No not at all i see Smith win a heat two at the Abbey a year or so before his stint in the Robins team and for me he never kicked on.He had chances at Glasgow and Sheffield and did not push on in the Championship.Also with riders like Rowe/Bickley (examples) to progress they need to be riding two leagues certainly if they are stopped riding the NL (if there is one?. Would i rather have Anders scoring between 0/ 3 points per meeting gaining experience and having a longterm future for us or have someone else on a three who is also likely to struggle i would go with Anders. Edited December 3, 2019 by Sidney the robin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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