DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: If a club wants to give them a chance then why shouldn’t they give it a go. I genuinely think allowing a young Brit at reserve is a good thing. Why bring in a ringer, look after our own riders first. Woffy, Lambert, Bewley to name a few we’re all given chances at a young age. Except Anders is more like Jack Smith than those three. Be sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, hyabb17 said: He has very good equipment which will help. His other advantage is his Dad is his spanner man & by all accounts is very good. Absolutley spot on his dad used to spanner 4 zorro,zagar cant remember who else,aslong as his dad is in his corner theres only 1 way hes going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Grachan said: It was his first full year, and his average is based on his scores over the whole season. His form at the end of the year was a lot better than at the start. If Connor Mountain had a higher average earlier in the year than at the end then that means he got worse while Rowe improved. Mountain was at 4.82 for two months before dropping to 4.73 in the final week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DC2 said: Except Anders is more like Jack Smith than those three. Be sensible. How do we know what he's going to be like, he won the NL riders title. He has 6 decent ashtech engines....Give the kid a chance before even judging him. Without given a chance then no-one can really know how he will do, Swindon have given him that chance. I for one hopes he takes it. Edited December 2, 2019 by hyabb17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: How do we know what he's going to be like, he won the NL riders title. He has 6 decent ashtech engines....Give the kid a chance before even judging him. Yes, he won the NL riders title that was called off after three rides. I think he’s a promising young rider and I wish him the best, but he’s not Woffinden, Lambert, Bewley or Darcy Ward and he’s not ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, he won the NL riders title that was called off after three rides. I think he’s a promising young rider and I wish him the best, but he’s not Woffinden, Lambert, Bewley or Darcy Ward and he’s not ready. I'm not saying he's any of those riders but he's entitled to be given a chance. To write him off before the season starts is ridiculous in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: I'm not saying he's any of those riders but he's entitled to be given a chance. To write him off before the season starts is ridiculous in my opinion. Agreed. Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: I'm not saying he's any of those riders but he's entitled to be given a chance. To write him off before the season starts is ridiculous in my opinion. Yes nobody minds giving riders a chance but he is too young, he should have done another year at the lower level first. The problem is it doesn't do the rider any good and may take him a while to get his confidence back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Yes nobody minds giving riders a chance but he is too young, he should have done another year at the lower level first. The problem is it doesn't do the rider any good and may take him a while to get his confidence back. I tend to agree, but hope that it pans out ok for Anders, he's got the ability but possibly a year too soon. Perhaps a slightly increased points limit should have been considered 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) As Grachan has identified, Anders was beating established riders such as Cook, Schlein and Worrall towards the end of the season. Surely beating seasoned Championship riders is a benchmark that shows he is on the up. Plus it’s not like he hasn’t ridden Swindon’s track much either. I’d like to think JD, Batch and Rasmus will give him a hand with bike set ups. Anders could be anything and on a 3 I think is worth the gamble but one thing is for sure, and no disrespect to the lad at all, but he would appear to be miles ahead of Jack Smith at this stage of his career. Edited December 2, 2019 by theblueboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: He might be in the team at the start! Hmmm quite possibly/probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: Yes nobody minds giving riders a chance but he is too young, he should have done another year at the lower level first. The problem is it doesn't do the rider any good and may take him a while to get his confidence back. You have to look at the likes of Zach Wajtknecht at Swindon, and some others in the championship who ‘retired’ early because their confidence was shot. I’m all for pushing youngsters at the highest level but it really can be a double edged sword. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, stevebrum said: You have to look at the likes of Zach Wajtknecht at Swindon, and some others in the championship who ‘retired’ early because their confidence was shot. I’m all for pushing youngsters at the highest level but it really can be a double edged sword. Oh god. Do I have to say this? Spot on, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, stevebrum said: You have to look at the likes of Zach Wajtknecht at Swindon, and some others in the championship who ‘retired’ early because their confidence was shot. I’m all for pushing youngsters at the highest level but it really can be a double edged sword. 5 minutes ago, DC2 said: Oh god. Do I have to say this? Spot on, Steve. If Swindon signed a 17/18 year old foreign rider would anything be said like the above post over the previous 2/3 pages, I very much doubt it. Edited December 2, 2019 by hyabb17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, theblueboy said: As Grachan has identified, Anders was beating established riders such as Cook, Schlein and Worrall towards the end of the season. Surely beating seasoned Championship riders is a benchmark that shows he is on the up. Plus it’s not like he hasn’t ridden Swindon’s track much either. I’d like to think JD, Batch and Rasmus will give him a hand with bike set ups. Anders could be anything and on a 3 I think is worth the gamble but one thing is for sure, and no disrespect to the lad at all, but he would appear to be miles ahead of Jack Smith at this stage of his career. He beat Craig Cook at Somerset after Cook missed the start and got caught behind his own rider. Nevertheless a good ride. Anders then came fourth behind Connor Bailey, second behind Bickley (both Glasgow reserves) and third ahead of Vissing. In the two second places he beat Somerset’s Nathan Stoneman (a 2 point reserve) and the completely useless Mikel B Andersen (0, 0, 0). A handy performance by the youngster but he wasn’t beating established PL riders all night. The previous home meeting he scored 9+1, which sounds pretty good, doesn’t it. But he beat only Sarjeant, Coles, Willie Lawson and Stoneman (all 4 or below in the averages), team mate Schlein, and Sam Masters who had EF. Edited December 2, 2019 by DC2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DC2 said: He beat Craig Cook at Somerset after Cook missed the start and got caught behind his own rider. Nevertheless a good ride. Anders then came fourth behind Connor Bailey, second behind Bickley (both Glasgow reserves) and third ahead of Vissing. In the two second places he beat Somerset’s Nathan Stoneman (a 2 point reserve) and the completely useless Mikel B Andersen (0, 0, 0). A handy performance but the youngster but he wasn’t beating established PL riders all night. So I take it you don't rate Vissing then? He's not going to be expected to beat established PL riders all night. I think you are just being negative for the sake of it. You've had it in for this team ever since Batch was announced. Edited December 2, 2019 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: If Swindon signed a 17/18 year old foreign rider would anything be said like the above post over the previous 2/3 pages, I very much doubt it. Almost certainly yes. There are very few 17 year olds ready for the PL. You only have to look at the Edinburgh thread where there is much discussion over Lasse Fredriksen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Grachan said: So I take it you don't rate Vissing then? He's not going to be expected to beat established PL riders all night. I think you are just being negative for the sake of it. You've had it in for this team ever since Batch was announced. Keep your hair on. It’s just a discussion. And my view is irrelevant compared to Rosco’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC2 said: Keep your hair on. It’s just a discussion. And my view is irrelevant compared to Rosco’s. My hair is still on, thanks. I guess we'll leave it at that, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) A good move and we all know the Swindon management will not expect any miracles from Anders.The good thing is Alun has been there himself so he can identify in what this move means for Anders.Going back in time hand on heart was Wellie, Alun, and bless him Martin Hewlett ever ready to move up in the top league when they did? probably not but they all had determination and got through some tough times.Anders will have to do that as well and if he can be on the pace learn as he goes along he should be ok.It is a big ask but the main plus for me is he is our asset and British. Hopefully in the long run the club and the rider gains and it is great to have a young local rider in our team again. Edited December 2, 2019 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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