lisa-colette Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 I still think it is quite clever team building by Swindon. I assume it is a lot easier to replace lower end riders if you need a change rather than HL's, with most top riders not interested. Plus you know pretty much what you are going to get from Batch and JD now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I still think it is quite clever team building by Swindon. I assume it is a lot easier to replace lower end riders if you need a change rather than HL's, with most top riders not interested. Plus you know pretty much what you are going to get from Batch and JD now. Spot on Lisa and Alun will have other options if certain lower end team members dont cut it. But we are not usually a promotion who change for the sake of it we normally give every rider every opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, DC2 said: Batch for me was the one to go. He’s unlikely to improve his home and away averages, whereas Rasmus should improve away and Ellis and Musielak will improve both. Musielak isn't likely to improve his average as he won't be racing in the UK this season Edited November 27, 2019 by Reliant Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Spot on Lisa and Alun will have other options if certain lower end team members dont cut it. But we are not usually a promotion who change for the sake of it we normally give every rider every opportunity. true and it has paid off in recent years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Yes, but loyalty should start with assets. And Tobi has ridden for us for three seasons without being recalled so I’m not buying that! Get Miedzinski over then....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 19 hours ago, stevebrum said: It was used for one season and discarded like many good things, including the draft system. Im not sure it didn’t work correctly tho. I agree with you on the draft system but have to disagree on grading 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Booey boy said: I agree with you on the draft system but have to disagree on grading Two things were wrong with the draft system. Firstly, some clubs had protected assets. Secondly, the reserves did not get averages and go into the 1-5. Consequently, some teams derived an unfair advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Reliant Robin said: Musielak isn't likely to improve his average as he won't be racing in the UK this season How do you know? Where has your info come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Booey boy said: I agree with you on the draft system but have to disagree on grading No issues. 10 minutes ago, DC2 said: Two things were wrong with the draft system. Firstly, some clubs had protected assets. Secondly, the reserves did not get averages and go into the 1-5. Consequently, some teams derived an unfair advantage. It was similar to the Polish reserve system where they stay in reserve all season long. Obviously a similar situation because some teams have much better juniors than others. Bringing on assets should be rewarded not penalised imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Has a British champ or Hans signed today yet? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, DC2 said: How do you know? Where has your info come from? Someone that would know 100%. He won't be starting the season in England 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, stevebrum said: No issues. It was similar to the Polish reserve system where they stay in reserve all season long. Obviously a similar situation because some teams have much better juniors than others. Bringing on assets should be rewarded not penalised imho. From memory, the only two draft reserves who had a 5 point lower league average in 2013 were Garrity and Newman. The rest were considerably worse. If they had all had their averages halved and had them count towards team building it would have been fairer. Poole queue jumped to get Newman by saying he was their asset, despite him having never ridden for them. Quite what they had done to “bring on” his career beforehand I do not know. Maybe a few second halves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 51 minutes ago, DC2 said: From memory, the only two draft reserves who had a 5 point lower league average in 2013 were Garrity and Newman. The rest were considerably worse. If they had all had their averages halved and had them count towards team building it would have been fairer. Poole queue jumped to get Newman by saying he was their asset, despite him having never ridden for them. Quite what they had done to “bring on” his career beforehand I do not know. Maybe a few second halves? No argument from me regards Newman. Completely used by Poole and dropped several times and did very little to bring on his career. However not many top flight teams promote and push the career of their British assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingRacer2017 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 ttps://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/18062834.swindon-robins-boss-alun-rossiter-unable-retain-services-tobiasz-musielak-claus-vissing-sgb-premiership-2020-season/ Pretty much confirms Adam Ellis & Ellis Perks for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingRacer2017 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 1. Jason Doyle 8.962. 3. Rasmus Jensen 7.86 4. Adam Ellis 6.33 (Reduction)5. Troy Batchelor 8.826. 7. Ellis Perks 3.48 (Reduction) 7.05 Remaining Edited November 27, 2019 by ReadingRacer2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Not hans that you said hsd signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingRacer2017 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: Not hans that you said hsd signed. Obsessed much Baldyman. I got it wrong, I hold my hands up. Apologies Edited November 27, 2019 by ReadingRacer2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Well why say people are signing when you don't have a single clue who is and who isn't???? Are you trying to make yourself look like Billy Big balls if you happen to guess one right. Eccles cakes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, ReadingRacer2017 said: ttps://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/18062834.swindon-robins-boss-alun-rossiter-unable-retain-services-tobiasz-musielak-claus-vissing-sgb-premiership-2020-season/ Pretty much confirms Adam Ellis & Ellis Perks for 2020. Which is what was said & you ignored it all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiarule Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, ReadingRacer2017 said: 1. Jason Doyle 8.962. 3. Rasmus Jensen 7.86 4. Adam Ellis 6.33 (Reduction)5. Troy Batchelor 8.826. 7. Ellis Perks 3.48 (Reduction) 7.05 Remaining If the figures are correct..a 3pst reserve and 4.05 rider to be sort.. interesting thoughts too who they could be.. what would a new Dane.swede or Australian come in on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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