DC2 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: You said that last year and we were a winner if i remember rightly you once slated Doyley last year you said you did not rate him says it all really. Yes, it was bad team building last season with two poor reserves and Lampart, all of whom were replaced, and we got lucky with Rasmus. Next year’s team is going down the same road. Rosco’s only excuse must be that Musielak will not ride the UK and that Morris wants to return to Wolves. It looks like our best hope is to have Jeppesen/Stewart at 2 on a 4 point average (unless we can fit Pickering on 4.36) and Perks 3.57 and Kemp 3 at reserve. Regarding Doyle, I have only ever said that he is not in the same class as Leigh Adams and that he should be averaging a point more in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Unless another change in the rules has not been reported anywhere If so, that’s poor judgment. It was one of the better ideas of the BSPA to do away with Jack Smith type two pointers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, it was bad team building last season with two poor reserves and Lampart, all of whom were replaced, and we got lucky with Rasmus. Next year’s team is going down the same road. Rosco’s only excuse must be that Musielak will not ride the UK and that Morris wants to return to Wolves. It looks like our best hope is to have Jeppesen/Stewart at 2 on a 4 point average (unless we can fit Pickering on 4.36) and Perks 3.57 and Kemp 3 at reserve. Regarding Doyle, I have only ever said that he is not in the same class as Leigh Adams and that he should be averaging a point more in this league. Anders Rowe was fairly confident about securing a team place in the premier league from an article in the star the other week so the rules must have changed just like the 1 x over 8. With bonus point Doyley averages 9.96, means he's team riding more!!! Edited November 26, 2019 by hyabb17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Unless another change in the rules has not been reported anywhere If it has changed Orlov and he did come in on a three with Adam in as well we could get a four pointer meaning Ellis Perks could stay at reserve.Then after the first averages come out the management could stake stock and maybe make a change later on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: With bonus point Doyley averages 9.96, means he's team riding more!!! Good point, but Leigh Adams was a better team rider and averaged 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, DC2 said: Good point, but Leigh Adams was a better team rider and averaged 10. No-one even gets close to Leigh in my eyes, I was trying to put some meat on the bone that's all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC2 said: Good point, but Leigh Adams was a better team rider and averaged 10. Leigh was a class act but Doyley has won a world title therefore putting him above him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, it was bad team building last season with two poor reserves and Lampart, all of whom were replaced, and we got lucky with Rasmus. Next year’s team is going down the same road. Rosco’s only excuse must be that Musielak will not ride the UK and that Morris wants to return to Wolves. It looks like our best hope is to have Jeppesen/Stewart at 2 on a 4 point average (unless we can fit Pickering on 4.36) and Perks 3.57 and Kemp 3 at reserve. Regarding Doyle, I have only ever said that he is not in the same class as Leigh Adams and that he should be averaging a point more in this league. Alun made a change and got it right with Rasser he did not get lucky? give credit where it is due.Seeing as you are dead set against the shape of this side you give us what your 1/7 would be?? seeing as you think you are more capable than Alun/ Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 I think there was a certain amount of fortune with Jensen however good the scouting was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: No-one even gets close to Leigh in my eyes, I was trying to put some meat on the bone that's all. Briggo and Crump senior does.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Leigh was a class act but Doyley has won a world title therefore putting him above him. Do you really believe that? Leigh was a legend in team speedway in every country for ten solid years and came second and had other top five finishes in the World Championship riding against similar speedway legends, Rickardsson, Gollob, Crump and Hancock. Doyle’s competitors were emerging poles who hadn’t won a title, a hot and cold and often injured Woffinden and a 45 year old Greg Hancock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Where is the clown,, do they lock em back up this time of day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Leigh was a class act but Doyley has won a world title therefore putting him above him. For himself/individually but not above him as far as team contribution goes. I'd never say Muller was above Jessup for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DC2 said: Do you really believe that? Leigh was a legend in team speedway in every country for ten solid years and came second and had other top five finishes in the World Championship riding against similar speedway legends, Rickardsson, Gollob, Crump and Hancock. Doyle’s competitors were emerging poles who hadn’t won a title, a hot and cold and often injured Woffinden and a 45 year old Greg Hancock. Totally right and Leigh is up there with the likes of Farndon, Duggan,Warren,Jessup, Carter,Sigalos, Ward, T.Jansson ( ect) who were all good anough to be a world champion.Doyley has gone a different route to most riders a slow burner he has recovered from horrendous injuries and won the pinnacle of our sport. Edited November 26, 2019 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, hyabb17 said: With bonus point Doyley averages 9.96, means he's team riding more!!! Already tried telling him that!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Pickering, Stewart or even a fit Sedgy is not a bad rider to have a choice of. I can’t see that Ellis isn’t coming back as he would’ve been announced by another team in the same crowing way Wolves announced Douglas. I also hope that Adam is back as he has proved me wrong & was fantastic at the end of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Briggo and Crump senior does.!!! Before my time I'm afraid although Phil Crump was my Dad's fav rider!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crazy robin said: Pickering, Stewart or even a fit Sedgy is not a bad rider to have a choice of. I can’t see that Ellis isn’t coming back as he would’ve been announced by another team in the same crowing way Wolves announced Douglas. I also hope that Adam is back as he has proved me wrong & was fantastic at the end of season. Won't have to hope too hard CR! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 Personally I have never ever seen a better team rider than Leigh Adams. Absolute master at what is a difficult skill. As pointed out, Adams averaged an amazing 10 points per meeting consistently, and over several seasons. It’s very difficult to compare riders from different eras though. Doyle I would say is more mean and aggressive than Adams ( although again, Leigh was more aggressive than for example Martin Ashby. I remember watching the Ray Wilson/ Ashby run off in the British final at Coventry which decided the final place in the World Final at Wembley. There’s no doubt in my mind that Ashby would’ve won that classic race but he was too nice to Wilson, and allowed him through on the last bend. That said, how lucky have we been at Swindon over the years to see such great and genuine class number ones. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree34 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 I think one of the best on a 4.35 average is jye etheridge had a cracking season for berwick and belle vue later in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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