ch958 Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 the income from Cardiff should be ringfenced for development of tracks at NL level - how else are we going to grow talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, ch958 said: the income from Cardiff should be ringfenced for development of tracks at NL level - how else are we going to grow talent What income from Cardiff? BSI run that event . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabba59 Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 BSPA don't get any money whatsoever from Cardiff, the only people who make money are hotels bsi and pubs. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: What income from Cardiff? BSI run that event . That ship sailed years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, ch958 said: if the BSPA were anything but individuals they would do a 'rugby league' and support the likes of Buxton I assume you're alluding to the Rugby Football League's decision to take on the Odsal lease, thereby propping up basket case Bradford Bulls for an extra season or two. Thing is, Bradford are one of the Super League era's biggest names, attracting crowds in the fairly recent past up to 20,000. I've been a fairly regular visitor to Buxton, going back to the first season, when they raced at the stock car stadium. They were never well supported. Few, if any, crowds topped 150. You're hardly comparing like with like. Out of interest, did anyone ever come across anyone at a Buxton meeting who was from Buxton? In my experience, most of the crowd travelled from Sheffield, Manchester, the Potteries, West Yorkshire (I drove over when I lived in Leeds) and southeast Derbyshire. Edited November 6, 2019 by Piotr Pyszny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, pitstop84 said: BSPA don't get any money whatsoever from Cardiff, the only people who make money are hotels bsi and pubs. . presumably BSI paid for the rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 6:27 PM, HGould said: NDL motto should be "it aint over til the fat lady sings". Can be a good product with 8 Teams and no certainty that Kent and Plymouth will be in CL or won't run CL and NDL as both said they may do and if Colts and Cubs return with Mildenhall and IOW only needs Buston/Stoke and one other rumoured collaboration between Scunny/Sheffield and you have 8 sides rumoured where please? think you may be dissapointed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ScunnyDan said: rumoured where please? think you may be dissapointed Shame really would love to see a junior side back at scunny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendover Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, ch958 said: presumably BSI paid for the rights? To the F.I.M. the BSPA have nothing to do with the GP series (Financially). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 20 hours ago, ch958 said: riding where? The north side training facility to made into a Buxton type track running on low costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, TurnTwo said: The north side training facility to made into a Buxton type track running on low costs? Obvious choice and would be excellent if it were to happen, that said there are a lot of hoops to jump through before getting a track signed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Obvious choice and would be excellent if it were to happen, that said there are a lot of hoops to jump through before getting a track signed off. Be realistic, this will never happen even if I do like the idea of a NL team locally. Track would need many, many upgrades to get a track certificate and then there's the usual number one problem. Who is going to fund running a team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 15 hours ago, ch958 said: presumably BSI paid for the rights? To the FIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: Obvious choice and would be excellent if it were to happen, that said there are a lot of hoops to jump through before getting a track signed off. Who would go to Northside with its limited facilities. When NL racing was staged at Iwade, no one went. Yet a couple of miles down the road, they turn up in their droves to watch the same level at Central Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertsRacer Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, cityrebel said: Who would go to Northside with its limited facilities. When NL racing was staged at Iwade, no one went. Yet a couple of miles down the road, they turn up in their droves to watch the same level at Central Park. Thought I read years ago that one of the conditions of the grants received to help build Northside was that professional racing was not allowed. Has that changed or was I just imagining it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, HertsRacer said: Thought I read years ago that one of the conditions of the grants received to help build Northside was that professional racing was not allowed. Has that changed or was I just imagining it? Not sure, i've only been there once, for the British youth championship a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 There are many threads saying that Speedway in this country is on a down hill slide. I would view the destruction of the NDL as the biggest threat to its continued existence in a form that means rebuilding is possible. You have to have the lower level leagues if you are ever going to be able improve what is above. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chris116 said: There are many threads saying that Speedway in this country is on a down hill slide. I would view the destruction of the NDL as the biggest threat to its continued existence in a form that means rebuilding is possible. You have to have the lower level leagues if you are ever going to be able improve what is above. The only thing killing off the NL is the NL itself. When certain clubs started to have a win at all costs attitude and paying way over the accepted rate then that was the start of the end. One NL cub was paying a NL reserve more than a Championship second string was earning! Look what's it's done to Buxton. The gready clubs are still gready and now they've killed off the opposition they have to move up or have no one to race. How ridiculous is it we have a Premiership title winning rider allowed to ride in the NL? The NL needs to save itself for the benefit of the next generation if there is to be one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabba59 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Think it was more the amount of money that was paid. And that is fact and that is what as killed off NL win at all costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Richard Weston said: Winning race in the NL gave Ellis Perks the confidence to go out and mix in the Championship and top division. It was a similar case, I recall, with Adam Ellis and look how he has grown. So, not ridiculous at all. Yes, ridiculous. If it's just about ' giving confidence ' why wasn't every other British youngster allowed to treble up? Several others were barred from riding in the NL because of averages and ages, just makes a mockery of the sport having one rider allowed to treble up. No rider should be permitted to do it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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