BWitcher Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. What horror? It ended months ago. It's just the government, scaremongering media and idiots who think everyone is dropping dead still that prolong it. You've just presented the entire reason why the current restrictions are in place.. not because they are necessary.. but to drive you to a vaccine. Edited August 11, 2020 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. If the majority of people take the vaccine when approved and available, it should control it, but being harsh if the one's who don't they will either be lucky and not catch covid or will become ill or worse, or at best recover and hopefully have some immunity, and the only ones they could pass it on to are like wise non participants of a vaccine. Maybe some people will have side effects with the vaccine, but that is the same with any vaccine but the whole picture would be far better with a vaccine than without, just hope the Oxford one is successful, would still have far more confidence in our processes than Russia, USA etc. Only horrible variable with all of this is if the virus keeps mutating, then it really will be with us in big way for a long time. Edited August 11, 2020 by gazzac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. Just my opinion,common sense will keep the virus at bay ,it’s not going to disappear .Not saying vaccination won’t help.Its interesting that the Large Emergency Hospital’s set up to cope with the pandemic were really not required in this instance.I accept that it was a necessary precaution in this instance.Scotland’s Louisa Jordon seemingly had no admissions.Surely this 2nd wave will be able to to be kept in check with local measures.From what I have witnessed most people are going about there normal business taking the precautions .The Government are the people pulling the strings.Think it will be a while for normality to return. I think the biggest panic is the State of the Health Service .They don’t want caught out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. I had a dose of speedway at Scunthorpe on sunday. It did me the world of good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 looking at the british final how will riders be decided. Assume Scotty is a shoe in, Starkey was flying until his injury in last years meeting will he get a spot. Have the bspa released a formula to decide competitors in this unprecedented season. Will many top riders wish to ride in it with no other track time and no gp spot as a carrot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, teaboy279 said: looking at the british final how will riders be decided. Assume Scotty is a shoe in, Starkey was flying until his injury in last years meeting will he get a spot. Have the bspa released a formula to decide competitors in this unprecedented season. Will many top riders wish to ride in it with no other track time and no gp spot as a carrot? A good question. I would assume by top GSAs. However most riders have two, PL and CL. There are 17 Brits (inc Schlein) named in PL teams, including Ellis who might be riding in Poland (if fit). Of these Kemp, Ashley Morris and Rowe might lose out to the top riders named only in the CL namely Ritchie Worrall, Kennett and Auty. In practice I suspect that one or two of these may simply decline the opportunity to race. I do hope that plans are underway for a British under 21 & 19 champs as well. Edited August 27, 2020 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 16 hours ago, teaboy279 said: looking at the british final how will riders be decided. Assume Scotty is a shoe in, Starkey was flying until his injury in last years meeting will he get a spot. Have the bspa released a formula to decide competitors in this unprecedented season. Will many top riders wish to ride in it with no other track time and no gp spot as a carrot? News of a British Final has passed me by. Can anyone elaborate..when and where. Will public be allowed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, East End Fan said: News of a British Final has passed me by. Can anyone elaborate..when and where. Will public be allowed ? Ipswich, 26 September and yes. However if you go to Ippo website the latest news is from 31 July! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 17 hours ago, arnieg said: Ipswich, 26 September and yes. However if you go to Ippo website the latest news is from 31 July! Thank you for that. Ipswich seems a strange choice, why not Belle Vue, the "National" venue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Think because Ipswich has a bigger capacity and will allow a larger attendance with social distancing in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, East End Fan said: Thank you for that. Ipswich seems a strange choice, why not Belle Vue, the "National" venue ? As has been stated elsewhere, Ipswich has a much bigger outdoor seating area and it should also be noted that Greater Manchester is currently a Covid hot-spot, where local authorities might not be happy to have a 'test event' on their door-step. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 10 hours ago, crescent girl said: As has been stated elsewhere, Ipswich has a much bigger outdoor seating area and it should also be noted that Greater Manchester is currently a Covid hot-spot, where local authorities might not be happy to have a 'test event' on their door-step. I believe they announced today, they have been signed off by the council to have limited crowds at NSS, which must be a positive step towards the SON being possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Belle Vue has lower capacity than Ipswich which has been significantly upgraded by Spedeworth in recent years. Ipswich is in a low rate Covid area. Manchester is focal point for a significant regional lockdown, that's only now being slightly eased in some parts but increased in others in the general area. The meeting is in approx 4 weeks time. The decision has nothing to do with Speedway, tracks or favouritism etc. It's based on Covid 19 and common sense. It seems to me to be a rare bit of lateral thinking. The most suitable venue in the safest area at this moment in time. More important to get the meeting on, get Europsort some coverage and some domestic top class Speedway. Hopefully Belle Vue will be ready in 8 weeks time for SON. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 5 hours ago, HGould said: Belle Vue has lower capacity than Ipswich which has been significantly upgraded by Spedeworth in recent years. Ipswich is in a low rate Covid area. Manchester is focal point for a significant regional lockdown, that's only now being slightly eased in some parts but increased in others in the general area. The meeting is in approx 4 weeks time. The decision has nothing to do with Speedway, tracks or favouritism etc. It's based on Covid 19 and common sense. It seems to me to be a rare bit of lateral thinking. The most suitable venue in the safest area at this moment in time. More important to get the meeting on, get Europsort some coverage and some domestic top class Speedway. Hopefully Belle Vue will be ready in 8 weeks time for SON. All this logical thinking is too much for me to take in all at one time ! I have never been to Ipswich so have no idea what the plavce is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scampispeedway Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Hi East End Fan, Foxhall Heath where Ipswich Race is in an area east of Ipswich Centre but as the second part of its name it is a large open grassland area and you need to travel quite a way through this to get to stadium when driving from the main road. When entering the stadium itself the track is at the bottom of a hollowed out area and so the sound of the Speedway bikes and Banger cars are contained as much as possible so keeping the area fairly quiet for people walking nearby heath land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 6:52 AM, HGould said: Belle Vue has lower capacity than Ipswich which has been significantly upgraded by Spedeworth in recent years. Ipswich is in a low rate Covid area. Manchester is focal point for a significant regional lockdown, that's only now being slightly eased in some parts but increased in others in the general area. The meeting is in approx 4 weeks time. The decision has nothing to do with Speedway, tracks or favouritism etc. It's based on Covid 19 and common sense. It seems to me to be a rare bit of lateral thinking. The most suitable venue in the safest area at this moment in time. More important to get the meeting on, get Europsort some coverage and some domestic top class Speedway. Hopefully Belle Vue will be ready in 8 weeks time for SON. Are you sure it is going to be on TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 19 hours ago, scampispeedway said: Hi East End Fan, Foxhall Heath where Ipswich Race is in an area east of Ipswich Centre but as the second part of its name it is a large open grassland area and you need to travel quite a way through this to get to stadium when driving from the main road. When entering the stadium itself the track is at the bottom of a hollowed out area and so the sound of the Speedway bikes and Banger cars are contained as much as possible so keeping the area fairly quiet for people walking nearby heath land. Thank you for that, I might even make my first trip there for the British Championship in September. Must remember to wrap up warm ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 21 hours ago, crescent girl said: Are you sure it is going to be on TV? Wouldn't it be part of the Eurosport contract? If not, then maybe therefore a chance to stream it around the country on a PPV basis? Wouldn't charge more than a fiver though if they did.. The reason being is that one of the anomalies of having "no Speedway over here" this year is that I have never watched so much of it...!! Poland, Sweden, SEC, GP Challenge and the GP's... Almost becoming too much Speedway.. Having to record so much I am not sure I will get round to watch it all.. Best Speedway watching season ever.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 I was pleasantly surprised when I was told that Daniel Gilkes had only droppedd one point in the Under 19 meeting at Scunthorpe. Have watched his progress over the last season ( 2019) and he simply got better and better. Will be a big influence in the Kings success or otherwise when Championship racing begins again. Keeping my fingers crossed for March 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Keeping my fingers crossed especially for all Speedway Stadia shared with Dogs. The Stadia can run Dogs with no crowd and generate welcome betting levy money. The problem Speedway poses them is that if Speedway bring crowds in (if allowed and even if limited) and anyone gets an infection, the Stadium closes for 14 days for a deep clean. The Betting levy lost in those 14 days (around 10 dog meetings) may be as much as the same they would get in annual rent from Speedway. Already been flagged up at places like Newcastle and Perry Barr and Kent would be similar. Poole is a different and more worrying scenario where Dogs have closed entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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