waco Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Ledwith was a poor signing on a 2.point average on a 4 its a joke ,,can they now change him for Ben Morley who would score miles more than Ledwith around Kent...?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Yes, my responses relate to 2018, as they were replies to ‘Poole Bolton’, who repeatedly referred to last year, when it appears he meant this year........ Sorry I mean 2019 as last season now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, waco said: Ledwith was a poor signing on a 2.point average on a 4 its a joke ,,can they now change him for Ben Morley who would score miles more than Ledwith around Kent...?? I know, Waco, that you are a big fan of Ben Morley. I am a big fan of Ledwith, and the reason that I am such a fan is that he is very entertaining. With Ben Morley you know he will gate and go, but with Ledwith, you never know quite what to expect other than that he will ride his guts out for 4 laps and keep your heart in your mouth. Maybe that is why he got a team place ? Nothing to do with his average ? Just a guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, East End Fan said: I know, Waco, that you are a big fan of Ben Morley. I am a big fan of Ledwith, and the reason that I am such a fan is that he is very entertaining. With Ben Morley you know he will gate and go, but with Ledwith, you never know quite what to expect other than that he will ride his guts out for 4 laps and keep your heart in your mouth. Maybe that is why he got a team place ? Nothing to do with his average ? Just a guess. Waco is related to Morley and has been banging the drum about him for years despite the fact he is a boring gating tart, a poor mans luke bowen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 The question is do Kent want to put out the strongest possible side ,,Gilks will improve with experience,but Ledwith will not,any team needs a strong reserve pairing.Kent have not got that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Islander15 said: Ben Morley must be wondering what he’s done wrong to not be in the team on 3.91 but Ledwith is in on 4.00. Btw it’s a crazy assessment giving him a 4.00. He clearly should be a 2.00 by coming up through up the NL, where he was barely a heat leader in reality. How he can have a higher assessed average for a higher league is just ridiculous! When Andrew Silver signed for PL Rye House in 2009 after 16 years out of the sport, he was given an assessed average of 4. Perhaps, in the eyes of the BSPA, a precedent had been set. Edited December 1, 2019 by tocha incorrect statistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 To me Ledwith was signed with the thought that he would be on 2.00......and to give him an average of 4.00 is (to me) just bonkers and really unfair. Of course Club will stick with him,but the bottom line is Ben would of been a much better signing! IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 He might not hit it but you'd rather give Ledwith a chance than give Morley another one. Morley, while admittedly wouldn't be a dreadful signing, is a good NL rider but probably not really good enough for the premier league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, JCookie said: He might not hit it but you'd rather give Ledwith a chance than give Morley another one. Morley, while admittedly wouldn't be a dreadful signing, is a good NL rider but probably not really good enough for the premier league. Its not the Premiership?...it is the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, blueherb777 said: Its not the Premiership?...it is the Championship. Not good enough for that either then which is a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Len has thought ledwith is a 2, guaranteed. Im no fan of ben morley as he has found his level but surely to god at a trappers paradise he will be good for 6 a match at home at central park. kent look horrific really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1075 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 What people forget is that Ben Morley has ridden the last 2 seasons in the Championship at No 2 for both Lakeside & Eastbourne averaging around the 4 point mark. No doubt a stint in the reserve berth would see his average gain at least a 1 to 1.5 points on top of that . It’s not rocket science that for teams to be successful you need riders to up there average which Ben would do riding at 6 or 7 for the Kings. He loves the Central Park track & like his stint at both Lakeside & Eastbourne his home average would be above 7 a meeting. As they say it’s horses for courses and Ben would no doubt take a few heat leader scalps riding around Central Park. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Maybe Ben doesn't fancy it or he has signed somewhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 There's no way Kent could have expected Ledwith to be on a 2.00 ave, as the rule was set that anyone who has previously averaged above 3.00 gets a minimum ave of 3.00! That is how William Lawson was on a 3.00 ave for Edinburgh at times last season when is actual average was below this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, dave1075 said: What people forget is that Ben Morley has ridden the last 2 seasons in the Championship at No 2 for both Lakeside & Eastbourne averaging around the 4 point mark. No doubt a stint in the reserve berth would see his average gain at least a 1 to 1.5 points on top of that . It’s not rocket science that for teams to be successful you need riders to up there average which Ben would do riding at 6 or 7 for the Kings. He loves the Central Park track & like his stint at both Lakeside & Eastbourne his home average would be above 7 a meeting. As they say it’s horses for courses and Ben would no doubt take a few heat leader scalps riding around Central Park. I would've signed up Morley in a heartbeat, but not sure how he'd fit in with the other signed riders? Edited December 1, 2019 by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 18 hours ago, TurnTwo said: It’ll be the same as Adam Ellis was signing for brum. Last gsa x 1.5 as they say that’s an up to date average. (5.47x1.5 8.20) hes a good rider but I don’t think he’s an 8 pointer maybe a 6.5/7 but 8.2 is a lot of points. Ellis got an 8.00 ave for Birmingham but would sign on 7.80 with NL reduction, seems a good signing to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 20 hours ago, NeilWatson said: Not sure what your comment (bold) means. However, Bradley’s 2020 CL average will be 8.75 (5.47 PL converted at 1.6). Yeah BWD's average wouldn't be "bumped up" because he didn't ride Champ, it would be "converted" because he only rode Prem! A fairer way of explaining it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipper11 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 48 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: There's no way Kent could have expected Ledwith to be on a 2.00 ave, as the rule was set that anyone who has previously averaged above 3.00 gets a minimum ave of 3.00! That is how William Lawson was on a 3.00 ave for Edinburgh at times last season when is actual average was below this! Are you saying that ledwith gets an assessed 4 point average because of his average from nearly 30 years ago! Then why did he only get a 3.5 average in the weaker NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Starke and Covatti. Should be up soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 And it’s announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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